Hunters BS excuse #3 - "It's in the bible Genesis 27:3"
Before we get started , I am no Christian, I have no religion my "religion" is compassion.
So lets get to the old "It's in the bible" excuse. Genesis 27:3 says "Now therefore take, I pray thee, they weapons, they quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBLuQaZ-Uu8
(Please watch the video from beginning to end this video was pulled down by youtube months ago because hunters did not want the public to learn the truth with 8,000 views)
Are the writing about killing deer with arrow in the bible the true words of God or is that a word of man who wanted to live a ungodly selfish and gluttony lifestyle? Or how about the part where the "clouds opens up "And there came a voice to him: 'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.'" Acts 10:13. "And the voice came" so who was the voice? God? God said "thou shalt not kill" yet God said "Peter, kill and eat" ?
The discovery of Christ's original teachings
In 1870, an Aramaic manuscript entitled "The Gospel of the Nazarene" was discovered, translated and published. This ancient scripture, hidden away for centuries in a Tibetan monastery, seems in virtually every respect identical to the work by the same title, that was known and widely quoted from in the first century by the church. Many of the most revered early church fathers, as well as a surprising number of scholars today, have boldly declared that the legendary Gospel of the Nazarene, later to be known as "The Gospel of the Holy Twelve," is nothing less than the long-lost original Gospel which, legend holds, was collectively written by the actual 12 apostles in the period immediately following Christ's death, and upon which all of the Biblical synoptic Gospels are based.
http://www.thenazareneway.com/legend_of_the_lost_gospel.htm
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Falsifying Gods words
"What these correctors did was to cut out of the Gospels, with minute care, certain teachings of our Lord which they did not propose to follow - namely, those against the eating of flesh and the taking of strong drink."
Rev. Gideon Jasper Richard Ousley
JESUS WARNS OF EVILDOERS
The enemies of truth and righteousness shall rule in my name and set up a kingdom of this world, oppress the peoples...teaching in my name that which I have not taught and darkening much that I have taught BY THEIR TRADITIONS." 95:3
"A Meat Eating Interpretation of the bible became the official creed of the Roman Empire, and vegetarian Christians had to practice in secret or risk being put to death for heresy. It is said Constantine used to pour molten lead down their throats if vegetarian Christians were captured."
Archdeacon Wilderforce
(The Roman Catholic church also sought to suppress translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which showed aspects of the Essene teachings at Qumran, many of which Jesus taught, that the church didn't want published, because it contradicted official church teachings.
The Essene Gospel of Peace, also called the Gospel of Peace of Jesus Christ, was written earlier than any book in the New Testament.)
Fruits / Grains / Grasses / Milk / Honey
"So eat always from the table of God: the fruits of the trees, the grains and grasses of the field, the milk of the beasts, and the honey of the bees. For everything beyond these is of Satan."
NEPHESH = SOUL OF THE ANIMALS
Gen. 1:20: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life" (The word here is nephesh--soul).
Next verse: "And God created great whales, and every living creature (nephesh--soul) that moveth, which the water brought forth abundantly."
Verse 24: "The living creature (nephesh) after his kind, cattle and creeping things."
Verse 30: "Every beast every foul everything that creepeth, wherein there is life (nephesh.)"
Did "Christian" hunters forget the Beatitude part of the bible? of course they did because it does not fit into their disgusting animal killing lifestyle.
Beatitudes
Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Lection 33
By The Shedding Of Blood Of Others Is No Remission Of Sins.
6. And what doth the Eternal command you but to do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with your God? Is it not written that in the beginning God ordained the fruits of the trees and the seeds and the herbs to be food for all flesh?
8. But I say unto you: Shed no innocent blood nor eat ye flesh. Walk uprightly, love mercy, and do justly, and your days shall be long in the land. Jesus of Nazarene
**
Few more things to add
Why would God would design a man who is anatomically suited for plant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc2HfsdVvjo (long, warm pocketed digestive tract) where putrid carcass can sit for days. If meat is "food" for man then why is it sending many to the mourgu with cancer and heart disease? Why is meat the most common cause of choking in adult humans? Did God wanted man to choke on it? ((lol)
Our body is a temple and we should put into the body what our body was designed for and its definitely not DEATH.
Slavery in the bible
What "Christian" hunters ignore is that there are slavery "condoned" by "God "even to the point of beating hard with a rod so long they do not die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNzoWa3zic
The Church father in the days of slavery said man was allowed to keep and even beat slaves and was in the bible.
Beating and Killing Slaves: Although an owner could beat a male or female slave, she/he would have to avoid serious injury to eyes or teeth. The owner would have to avoid beating the slave to death. But it was acceptable to beat a slave so severely that it only disabled him or her for two days:
Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money [property]."
Exodus 21:26-27 "And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake."
That is why slavery lasted for as long as it did and I don't think Jesus would have "condoned" such evil would he have?
God Is Love
http://www.theandros.com/ethicsanimals.html
Jesus said "I desire mercy not sacrifice" now what do you think he meant by that and what do you suppose if Jesus was alive today thought about killing when man have a choice not to (plant based died) and worse using his name to kill for sports.?
Also hunters were not looked upon well in Gods eyes
"The two famous hunters in the Bible, Nimrod and Esau, were regarded in a derogatory light, as rebels against God and the very antithesis of the spirit of Judaism." The Encyclopedia also reports that "the rabbinical attitude toward hunting is entirely negative. Harsh things are said about those who hunt even for a living."
God gave man TEMPORARY permission to eat meat after the flood because of the lack of plant source and because of the fall of man they became gluttony, wanted to kill and eat the carcass like beasts. God gave breath of life to man and animals animals too have a soul (Nephesh) and God attempting to end the killing asked to drain the blood for blood is LIFE is a SOUL.
Jesus came to earth born surrounded by animals because he quest in life was to redeem the animals from suffering and death from the cruelty of man.
Also about the Fish - it was "fish weed" a sea plant often eaten by the Palestine Peasants. The "Christians" claim Jesus fed 5000 was bread and fish weed. Then Jesus said to the fishermen I will make you fishers of men, no one caught any fishes they were moved away to teach killing was wrong.
If Jesus was about man terrorizing, inflicting pain and suffering to the innocent defenseless animals then their "God" is no different then the devil they condemn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSruqFgktY
Overall when it comes to God and hunting there will be many feed backs and anger they want to believe "Jesus" was a vicious pro-kill, pro-genocide, pro-rape, pro-slavery, pro-human murder and sacrifice and animals killing "Jesus" and do not want to believe that Jesus cared for his animals and wanted no harm come to them. The best advice because I dealt with Jesus and hunting is to ask them what would Jesus think when he said "I desire mercy, not sacrifice" when he sees the destruction of hunters to such innocent life when we have a CHOICE (Plant based diet) . Hunters will copy and paste all kinds of cherry picking scriptures of evils in the bible- you wait and see but ask where are the slavery? where are the rape and even murder of first born commanded by "God"? That should stump them.
"And Jesus himself sat down in their midst and said: "I tell you truly, none can be happy, except he do the Law." And the others answered: "We all do the laws of Moses, our lawgiver, even as they are written in the holy scriptures."
And Jesus answered: "Seek not the law in your scriptures, for the law is life, whereas the scripture is dead. I tell you truly, Moses received not his laws from God in writing, but through the living word. The law is living word of living God to living prophets for living men. In everything that is life is the law written. You find it in the grass, in the tree, in the river, in the mountain, in the birds of heaven, in the fishes of the sea; but seek it chiefly in yourselves. For I tell you truly, all living things are nearer to God than the scripture, which is without life. God so made life and all living things that they might by the everlasting word teach the laws of the true God to man. God wrote not the laws in the pages of books, but in your heart and in your spirit. They are in your breath, your blood, your bone; in your flesh, your bowels, your eyes, your ears, and in every little part of your body. They are present in the air, in the water, in the earth, in the plants, in the sunbeams, in the depths and in the heights. They all speak to you that you may understand the tongue and the will of the living God. But you shut your eyes that you may not see, and you shut your ears that you may not hear. I tell you truly, that the scripture is the work of man, but life and all its hosts are the work of our God. Wherefore do you not listen to the words of God, which are written in His works? And wherefore do you study the dead scriptures which are the work of the hands of men?"
"How may we read the laws of God elsewhere than in the scriptures? Where are they written? Read them to us from there where you see them, for we know nothing else but the scriptures which we have inherited from our forefathers. Tell us the laws of which you speak, that hearing them we may be healed and justified."
Jesus said: "You do not understand the words of life, because you are in death. Darkness darkens your eyes and your ears are stopped with deafness. For I tell you, it profits you not at all that you pore over dead scriptures if by your deeds you deny him who has given you the scriptures.
http://www.deepinfo.com/religion/Peace0.htm
The Conviction and Practice of Compassionate Living
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is a living soul, I have given every green herb for food: and it was so." ~God, Genesis 1:29-30
http://www.thenazareneway.com/index_vegetarian.htm
"And whatsoever ye do unto the Cast of these my children, ye do it unto me. For I am in them and they are in me, Yea, I am in all creatures and all creatures are in me. In all their joys I rejoice, in all their afflictions I am afflicted. Wherefore I say unto you: Be ye kind one to another, and to all the creatures of God." Jesus
Before we get started , I am no Christian, I have no religion my "religion" is compassion.
So lets get to the old "It's in the bible" excuse. Genesis 27:3 says "Now therefore take, I pray thee, they weapons, they quiver and thy bow, and go out to the field, and take me some venison"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBLuQaZ-Uu8
(Please watch the video from beginning to end this video was pulled down by youtube months ago because hunters did not want the public to learn the truth with 8,000 views)
Are the writing about killing deer with arrow in the bible the true words of God or is that a word of man who wanted to live a ungodly selfish and gluttony lifestyle? Or how about the part where the "clouds opens up "And there came a voice to him: 'Rise, Peter; kill and eat.'" Acts 10:13. "And the voice came" so who was the voice? God? God said "thou shalt not kill" yet God said "Peter, kill and eat" ?
The discovery of Christ's original teachings
In 1870, an Aramaic manuscript entitled "The Gospel of the Nazarene" was discovered, translated and published. This ancient scripture, hidden away for centuries in a Tibetan monastery, seems in virtually every respect identical to the work by the same title, that was known and widely quoted from in the first century by the church. Many of the most revered early church fathers, as well as a surprising number of scholars today, have boldly declared that the legendary Gospel of the Nazarene, later to be known as "The Gospel of the Holy Twelve," is nothing less than the long-lost original Gospel which, legend holds, was collectively written by the actual 12 apostles in the period immediately following Christ's death, and upon which all of the Biblical synoptic Gospels are based.
http://www.thenazareneway.com/legend_of_the_lost_gospel.htm
****
Falsifying Gods words
"What these correctors did was to cut out of the Gospels, with minute care, certain teachings of our Lord which they did not propose to follow - namely, those against the eating of flesh and the taking of strong drink."
Rev. Gideon Jasper Richard Ousley
JESUS WARNS OF EVILDOERS
The enemies of truth and righteousness shall rule in my name and set up a kingdom of this world, oppress the peoples...teaching in my name that which I have not taught and darkening much that I have taught BY THEIR TRADITIONS." 95:3
"A Meat Eating Interpretation of the bible became the official creed of the Roman Empire, and vegetarian Christians had to practice in secret or risk being put to death for heresy. It is said Constantine used to pour molten lead down their throats if vegetarian Christians were captured."
Archdeacon Wilderforce
(The Roman Catholic church also sought to suppress translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls which showed aspects of the Essene teachings at Qumran, many of which Jesus taught, that the church didn't want published, because it contradicted official church teachings.
The Essene Gospel of Peace, also called the Gospel of Peace of Jesus Christ, was written earlier than any book in the New Testament.)
Fruits / Grains / Grasses / Milk / Honey
"So eat always from the table of God: the fruits of the trees, the grains and grasses of the field, the milk of the beasts, and the honey of the bees. For everything beyond these is of Satan."
NEPHESH = SOUL OF THE ANIMALS
Gen. 1:20: "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life" (The word here is nephesh--soul).
Next verse: "And God created great whales, and every living creature (nephesh--soul) that moveth, which the water brought forth abundantly."
Verse 24: "The living creature (nephesh) after his kind, cattle and creeping things."
Verse 30: "Every beast every foul everything that creepeth, wherein there is life (nephesh.)"
Did "Christian" hunters forget the Beatitude part of the bible? of course they did because it does not fit into their disgusting animal killing lifestyle.
Beatitudes
Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Lection 33
By The Shedding Of Blood Of Others Is No Remission Of Sins.
6. And what doth the Eternal command you but to do justice, love mercy and walk humbly with your God? Is it not written that in the beginning God ordained the fruits of the trees and the seeds and the herbs to be food for all flesh?
8. But I say unto you: Shed no innocent blood nor eat ye flesh. Walk uprightly, love mercy, and do justly, and your days shall be long in the land. Jesus of Nazarene
**
Few more things to add
Why would God would design a man who is anatomically suited for plant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc2HfsdVvjo (long, warm pocketed digestive tract) where putrid carcass can sit for days. If meat is "food" for man then why is it sending many to the mourgu with cancer and heart disease? Why is meat the most common cause of choking in adult humans? Did God wanted man to choke on it? ((lol)
Our body is a temple and we should put into the body what our body was designed for and its definitely not DEATH.
Slavery in the bible
What "Christian" hunters ignore is that there are slavery "condoned" by "God "even to the point of beating hard with a rod so long they do not die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNzoWa3zic
The Church father in the days of slavery said man was allowed to keep and even beat slaves and was in the bible.
Beating and Killing Slaves: Although an owner could beat a male or female slave, she/he would have to avoid serious injury to eyes or teeth. The owner would have to avoid beating the slave to death. But it was acceptable to beat a slave so severely that it only disabled him or her for two days:
Exodus 21:20-21 "And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished. Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money [property]."
Exodus 21:26-27 "And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake. And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake."
That is why slavery lasted for as long as it did and I don't think Jesus would have "condoned" such evil would he have?
God Is Love
http://www.theandros.com/ethicsanimals.html
Jesus said "I desire mercy not sacrifice" now what do you think he meant by that and what do you suppose if Jesus was alive today thought about killing when man have a choice not to (plant based died) and worse using his name to kill for sports.?
Also hunters were not looked upon well in Gods eyes
"The two famous hunters in the Bible, Nimrod and Esau, were regarded in a derogatory light, as rebels against God and the very antithesis of the spirit of Judaism." The Encyclopedia also reports that "the rabbinical attitude toward hunting is entirely negative. Harsh things are said about those who hunt even for a living."
God gave man TEMPORARY permission to eat meat after the flood because of the lack of plant source and because of the fall of man they became gluttony, wanted to kill and eat the carcass like beasts. God gave breath of life to man and animals animals too have a soul (Nephesh) and God attempting to end the killing asked to drain the blood for blood is LIFE is a SOUL.
Jesus came to earth born surrounded by animals because he quest in life was to redeem the animals from suffering and death from the cruelty of man.
Also about the Fish - it was "fish weed" a sea plant often eaten by the Palestine Peasants. The "Christians" claim Jesus fed 5000 was bread and fish weed. Then Jesus said to the fishermen I will make you fishers of men, no one caught any fishes they were moved away to teach killing was wrong.
If Jesus was about man terrorizing, inflicting pain and suffering to the innocent defenseless animals then their "God" is no different then the devil they condemn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSruqFgktY
Overall when it comes to God and hunting there will be many feed backs and anger they want to believe "Jesus" was a vicious pro-kill, pro-genocide, pro-rape, pro-slavery, pro-human murder and sacrifice and animals killing "Jesus" and do not want to believe that Jesus cared for his animals and wanted no harm come to them. The best advice because I dealt with Jesus and hunting is to ask them what would Jesus think when he said "I desire mercy, not sacrifice" when he sees the destruction of hunters to such innocent life when we have a CHOICE (Plant based diet) . Hunters will copy and paste all kinds of cherry picking scriptures of evils in the bible- you wait and see but ask where are the slavery? where are the rape and even murder of first born commanded by "God"? That should stump them.
"And Jesus himself sat down in their midst and said: "I tell you truly, none can be happy, except he do the Law." And the others answered: "We all do the laws of Moses, our lawgiver, even as they are written in the holy scriptures."
And Jesus answered: "Seek not the law in your scriptures, for the law is life, whereas the scripture is dead. I tell you truly, Moses received not his laws from God in writing, but through the living word. The law is living word of living God to living prophets for living men. In everything that is life is the law written. You find it in the grass, in the tree, in the river, in the mountain, in the birds of heaven, in the fishes of the sea; but seek it chiefly in yourselves. For I tell you truly, all living things are nearer to God than the scripture, which is without life. God so made life and all living things that they might by the everlasting word teach the laws of the true God to man. God wrote not the laws in the pages of books, but in your heart and in your spirit. They are in your breath, your blood, your bone; in your flesh, your bowels, your eyes, your ears, and in every little part of your body. They are present in the air, in the water, in the earth, in the plants, in the sunbeams, in the depths and in the heights. They all speak to you that you may understand the tongue and the will of the living God. But you shut your eyes that you may not see, and you shut your ears that you may not hear. I tell you truly, that the scripture is the work of man, but life and all its hosts are the work of our God. Wherefore do you not listen to the words of God, which are written in His works? And wherefore do you study the dead scriptures which are the work of the hands of men?"
"How may we read the laws of God elsewhere than in the scriptures? Where are they written? Read them to us from there where you see them, for we know nothing else but the scriptures which we have inherited from our forefathers. Tell us the laws of which you speak, that hearing them we may be healed and justified."
Jesus said: "You do not understand the words of life, because you are in death. Darkness darkens your eyes and your ears are stopped with deafness. For I tell you, it profits you not at all that you pore over dead scriptures if by your deeds you deny him who has given you the scriptures.
http://www.deepinfo.com/religion/Peace0.htm
The Conviction and Practice of Compassionate Living
And God said, "Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is a living soul, I have given every green herb for food: and it was so." ~God, Genesis 1:29-30
http://www.thenazareneway.com/index_vegetarian.htm
"And whatsoever ye do unto the Cast of these my children, ye do it unto me. For I am in them and they are in me, Yea, I am in all creatures and all creatures are in me. In all their joys I rejoice, in all their afflictions I am afflicted. Wherefore I say unto you: Be ye kind one to another, and to all the creatures of God." Jesus
