Hunters Excuse- "They will spread diseases and we must control them"

First of all CWD the most serious of all disease were first spread by Elk and Deer farming when hunters were feeding rendered animals to grow large rack and because of hunting with their baiting and supplement feeding it continued to spread today though they banned feeding rendered animals they still supplement feed deer or bait when the deer congregates and that is how it's spread.. (although with the hunting public who knows if they still feed rendered animals)



"As you can see by reading this article [below] in this afternoon's Capital Times of Madison, word is slowly leaking out about what has apparently been a massive decade-long feeding of "supplements" (including meat and bone meal as mineral and protein) to wild deer in the heart of the "kill zone," the area of the WI Chronic Wasting Disease outbreak.

Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination.

As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers. "

http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/stauber6702.cfm

Bovine TB is another disease that can kill human and animals and it's spread by supplement feeding and baiting




same as CWD. Bovine TB is found in Michigan and spreading http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=507733 . They believe killing will "eliminate" the diseases but in Wisconsin they have killed thousands of deer since 2002 and CWD is still prevalent. The main cause of spread is hunters supplement feeding and baiting deer and Elk although they are "prohibiting" baiting and supplement feeding certain areas are still allowed in "Non-CWD Zone" in  Wisconsin and in private land.  Also when they gut the deer and leave the gut pile what other animals could be consuming a diseased deer?



CWD is now in 14 states plus 2 Canadian Province
Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York (only from CWD containment area), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia (only from Hampshire County), Wisconsin and Wyoming; as well as the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Overall it's not just CWD but other wildlife diseases which hunting can worsen the epidemic

Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060714174141.htm

"One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss.

(Here you can see Compensatory Rebound Effect at work)

Killing wild animals can also increase the proportion of the population that’s susceptible to disease by removing those individuals who have contracted a virus but have developed lifelong immunity as a result of their infection.




The effect can be so dramatic that in some cases hunting can increase not only the proportion of infections and deaths, but also the absolute numbers. For example, their model shows that in the case of swine fever, a highly infectious disease threatening boars and pigs in Europe, hunting can increase the number of infected individuals by twenty five percent.

If we want to preserve the hunted population, we should be careful about when we schedule the hunting season compared to birth season because if it’s too early or late, it can drive the population to extinction,” "

Hunters still seem to make excuses why it's "ok" for them to supplement feed deer (read my blogger)

http://mathew5-7.blogspot.com/2009/06/supplement-feeding-can-spread-cwd-yet.html

Wisconsin DNR is still allowing supplement feeding if the hunter pays more money and so long as you have sports hunting they will bait even if it's against the law in CWD zone.

In Wisconsin CWD are spreading yet there is still baiting deer and DNR is actually letting them with an extra charge. Why would they even do that if that is how CWD is spread? Ridiculous but not surprised at all!. As you read the article they also want to continue to supplement feed the deer for fear of deer numbers fa...lling (and ...all this time I thought hunting is about deer herd reduction) .

"I see people loading trucks with corn, carrots and sugar beets around my home in Grayling, and a friend called to say bait is widely sold even at the heart of the CWD management zone in Kent County.

It will be even harder to get Upper Peninsula hunters to accept a ban, because deer numbers there are below targets set by the Department of Natural Resources and Environment. And without supplemental winter feeding the population will drop even more.

The DNRE could charge $20-$30 for a license that lets people use small amounts of bait at a time or materials like salt licks and attractor blocks. Purchasing that license would acknowledge that the DNRE has the right to come onto a hunter's property to check the bait pile."
http://www.freep.com/article/20101118/SPORTS10/11180469/CWD-test-

Supplement Feeding can spread CWD yet hunters do it and supports it - WHY? cl
http://mathew5-7.blogspot.com/2009/06/supplement-feeding-can-spread-cwd-yet.html

175 deer test positive for cwd in wisconsin
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=329316#ixzz1F7y2TQ5k

Overall it's the sports hunting industry that will eventually bring deer to extinction from wildlife disease epidemic with their supplement feeding and baiting


HUNTERS CONTINUE TO DESTROY OUR WILDLIFE, WORSENING DISEASES AND MAY EVEN ONE DAY BRING DEER TO EXTINCTION. 

Lastly deer trafficking is very common so with hunters wanting their big rack deer the disease will continue to worsen in that way too.

Hunters excuse #5 "Our meat is hormone free and organic"

(worms in deer carcass)

(liver fluke)


(gross legions)

Left to right: Michigan Department of Natural Resources officials, Christine Hanaburgh, and Amy Swainston, catalog deer at the Barry County deer check station on opening day. Photo: Dave Raczkowski / The Grand Rapids Press

(Bovine TB turning up in Michigan)


(Pesticides from lawn spray tons were sprayed in NJ and hunted deer "given" to the pantries)

Before I start let me remind you that when recreational hunters comes to your post with the old line of  "meat in the freezer" and "Our meat is hormone free and organic" is just their cover-up.  Okeeee, now lets see we know wildlife especially deer may carry  all kinds of diseases one such  as bovine TB which can transmit to man, there are parasite, worms of all kinds, pesticides from the lawn and the most dangerous of all which if Chronic Wasting Disease another pretty name of Mad Deer Disease

What the government isn't telling you about mad deer disease.

http://mathew5-7.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-government-isnt-telling-you-about.html
 

Prions in CWD is the same agent that causes Creutzfeldt-Jakob is a rare, fatal illness often described as "fast Alzheimer's. One cannot often detect a sick deer until the final stage so you can kill a deer thinking he/she is "healthy" but instead carrying the disease.


(checking for CWD)


"At least seven people age 66 or younger -- all hunters or venison eaters -- are known to have died of Creutzfeldt-Jakob in the U.S. in the last nine years. The total number will never be known because there's no federal requirement that all cases be reported. Preliminary studies suggest, and some neurologists suspect, that CJD is more common than generally believed -- it's simply misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's. That raises the obvious question: How many people would die of chronic wasting disease before a doctor called it?

In a highly publicized case, three Wisconsin hunters who attended wild-game feasts died of neurological diseases. Two had Creutzfeldt-Jakob, one turned out to have another rare neurological ailment, Pick's disease. Tests are ongoing.

Another victim from Oklahoma died with a freezer full of venison. A 50-year-old Montana elk hunter died last summer; his brain tissue is now being analyzed at one of the world's foremost prion labs, at the University of California in San Francisco. Test results are pending."

None of the meat that some consume are inspected by the USDA the hunters "inspect" it themselves.

Lastly only 16% according to a chart found in a hunting website motive to hunt is for food the rest is for sports so even *if" some eat the meat they only take the "back ribs" or parts to make "beef jerkey" (laughable).



("to be close to nature" and "to be with family" is another words for "I love to kill living creatures")

  Sports hunters have their fridge stocked with market food and dairy is filled with hormones and puss and god knows what.  So all that "organic hormone free" more excuses and I have seen hunters going into 7-11's before their morning kill and even stop at Wendy's.  Plus why is it that heart attack http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/hunter-is-heart-attack-capital/1996845.aspx  are so prevalent in the hunting community? Boy those Venison must be really "healthy" for them.





(Don't forget milk and all dairy product  is filled with puss, hormones and all kinds of crap)

(don't forget Milk is filled with hormones, puss and all kinds of junk)



*I am not against sustenance hunting I understand there are some people who have absolutely no choice but those who not be here making lame excuses, they will not be making videos or taking morbid photographs they be out getting their food with a shotgun and come home.    So many times on some of the cruelest videos on youtube you hear the remark of 'yeah meat in freezer" or "back ribs baby" just to make the public think their disgusting savage killing is not because they just enjoy it.    Even their own hero Ted the "Turd" Nugent said 



Nobody hunts just to put meat on the table because it's too expensive, time consuming and extremely inconsistent. - Ted Nugent's World Bowhunters Magazine, Volume 1/ Number 3, March/April 1990, p.7

Hunters excuse #6 - "Have you seen how animals die in slaughterhouse? It's more humane to hunt free deer"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki1WlN3y2BI

I believe even though today's  recreational hunting has got nothing to do with food we should all strive to go vegan if we are going to go out and defend our wildlife, seals, whales, cats or dogs.   It's a compassionate choice we do have today and there is no more  excuse for you can't love and care for cats , dogs, seal  or deer yet eat the body of a cow,pigs, chicken or even have dairy for all animals suffer and NO animals do not want to die.  Now  Of course most  of us know what goes on at the slaughterhouse and in slaughterhouse it's a horrible hell for the animals .  Many are trying to go for the "humane" meat though I don't believe in that lie for no animals wants to die and in the end all death is horrific but that does not mean the animals in the wild by the billions do not suffer for SPORTS and TROPHY or what ever sick thrills one  get out of killing innocent sentient beings.  It only takes a mind of a soulless humans to want to literally  go into the homes of the animals and kill  for the shear  fun of it. As far as the slaughterhouse and meat eating,  today many are also going vegetarian and transition into  veganism for we are all learning that animals are sentient beings that do want to live, they have their life, their families, their babies, group bonding and look at the deer with their Matriarch, when one dies another take over. That is a sentient beings.

We know that today's sport hunting has got nothing to do with "food",  *some* may "eat" the "back ribs" or "beef jerky" (pathetic) as the rest of the body is either dumped to the forest ground, the land fill or "give" the unsavory part to the pantries to poison them with non USDA meat that hunters "inspect" themselves.  HUNTERS LOVE THE "MEAT IN FREEZER" EXCUSE I hear it all the time as if that takes the focus off their horrific cruelty done in the name of sports and trophy.  It's like their crutch same as how they use poachers as a scapegoat the hunting industry and hunters know their lies for lies and hunters and synonymous.

The  WORST PART IS in the forest recreational hunters can do WHAT EVER THEY WISH because sports hunting is nothing more then legalized animal cruelty.


(deer tortured)


(deer was tortured)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6gYSDmmQrY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NNP4aXjELY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLsA2ze9zn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCt3N4aW-ng&feature=related

  No one hear their cries http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE_JqmUacNQ&feature=related, no one sees the animals  suffocating in their own blood or taking hours to die.  No one sees how many cruel humans enjoy watching animals suffer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuPl4-w4pcU  as they spine hit the deer even fawns with spots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_KSKQKkhS8 and then they cheer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHB-X2Bmv8A  and the bowhunters doing  the "smack down" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSruqFgktY.   There are many  humans are out there who enjoy causing cruelty to animals.  They know that all they have to do is to get a hunting license and call yourself a "sportsman" or "outdoorsman" and you can cause any pain and suffering you want http://www.youtube.com/user/HR5337SPORTSHUNTING#p/a/u/2/wVLh0J77OMA.  It's all legalized animal cruelty, bowhunting in itself is immense cruelty  so the DNR and other state wildlife killing Agencies  (DNR, Fish and Games etc)  could give a damn what you all do, let the animals suffer and die a slow death isn't that right? BUT, NOW Lucky for us now we have bunch of morons who upload their sadism onto youtube which is  a haven for monsters who like to feel "important" by destroying life as they video tape soon after the shot with all that whooping for joy as the  animals run after arrow hit to lay up and die http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw4MyyM1utc  and the hunters wait the recommended 30-45 minutes sometimes up to 4 hours even 12 hours or longer .  In the forest there is no anti-cruelty law, in the forest the "sportsman" can do whatever they wish and the worst part now is that bowhunting is becoming more popular even the shotgun hunters are taking up the sadist "sports" for the soulless psychopathic humans. 



How many deer and other "game" animals are left wounded and crippled to die after days of suffering all for the sake of sports and trophy . ? In my other post I showed you a graphic in Wisconsin  08's deer killing season, 68,000 wounded deer were not recovered by hunters now how about the other states? How many do they leave behind in the forest ground or in rivers and streams dumped as if they were "nothing"



We know today's recreational hunters goes to their 7-11 for their egg and bacon sandwich and coffee



for their early morning kill or late afternoon at Wendy's for their "let the deer layup and die" lunch  and their fridge is stocked with chicken, pork, steak, rib eyes, dairy and other market bought food.  Recreational hunters  are not killing  out of survival or sustenance they  are killing for sports while they  drive their ATV, have their  fancy killing gear , face painted like they  are in a "war zone" to murder  bambies.  So "sportsman" cause pain and suffering indirectly in the slaughterhouse for food and in the home of the animals for "fun" .



Slaughterhouse is evil and horrendous  and sports hunting is just the same but I say this again,  with *SPORTS* Hunting (Killing) THERE IS NO LIMIT TO THE AMOUNT OF CRUELTY  THAT CAN BE INFLICTED ON THE ANIMALS IN THEIR OWN HOME-  Only small percentage of those  hunting is for sustenance the rest is for shear pleasure of killing call them "sportsman", "outdoorsman", "conservationist", for us they are simply wildlife killing  PSYCHOPATHS!

 

Lastly, let's all strive to be on a plant based diet, it's really sounds hypocritical to fight for one sentient beings while eating another even though fighting against sports hunting is not about Veganism.

Because with hunters they cause indirect pain and suffering to innocent sentient beings for food and direct deliberate pain and suffering on an innocent sentient being for sports and trophy



("to be with family", "to be close to nature" is just another way of saying "I just love to kill")

*Just to let you know that "16%" is not sustenance hunters or survival those are people who kills to eat the "back ribs" or "deer jerky" sustenance hunters and survival only makes up about .001% of the population.




SO IN CONCLUSION




Body Count - ANIMALS KILLED ANNUALLY By Sportsman/Hunters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8hG-7hPNcg

Does this looks like they do not contribute to slaughterhouse suffering too?

Compensatory Rebound Effect (CRE) is REAL don't let the hunting public tell you otherwise

You will often get comments like this from Hunters. "CRE is still junk science."Compensatory Rebound Effect is the reason why killing does not work but the hunters and the hunting industry wants to deny it and rather call is 'AR propaganda" or "junk science" .  We  shall see for ourselves if  this is really "propaganda" or "junk science".  First of all

 What is Compensatory Rebound Effect?

"Reproductive rebound is a well documented population dynamic in deer and other mammals. Deer conceive multiple embryos but the number of fawns actually born is determined by a number of complex factors including nutrition and herd density. With competition for food reduced by a sudden drop in herd numbers, younger fawns will breed and females will give birth to twins and triplets instead of single fawns.In its 1990 report, "An Assessment of Deer Hunting in New Jersey," New Jersey Fish and Game offered a detailed example of this process. Its report shows that even during hunting seasons in which killing female deer was the objective (antlerless seasons), the remaining females had increased birthrates that not only replaced the ones killed, but increased the overall size of the herd. "http://www.pzpinfo.org/pzp_faqs.html



CRE is mentioned by others people who have nothing to do with Animal Rights.

"The researchers note that in each instance, disease outbreaks have worsened in response to the hunting.One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss."

Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060714174141.htm



And GUESS WHAT? The hunting industry knows darn well about it and uses it to produce more deer, that with the use of food plot http://www.google.com/images?oe=UTF-8&gfns=1&q=food+plot+and+hunting&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1551&bih=816, to really "boost" the deer population. They are so preoccupied with fawn birth to create  larger deer herd size and  their main interest in the buck fawns.

“By keeping the deer population below the carrying capacity of the available habitat, more forage (nutrition) is available per deer. Thus, does are healthier, reproductive success is higher and more does are able to carry two fawns. Ironically, this can result in a greater deer harvest each year. Depending on the relationship of the population and the carrying capacity, an „optimum sustained yield‟ can be achieved where a relatively high reproductive rate allows an abundant harvest each fall. With high-quality habitat and increased nutrition, the percentage ofdoe fawns that breed their first fall increases (sometimes up to 25 percent). Also, a higher percentage of yearling does produce two fawns instead of one. Because fawns are born at approximately a 1:1 sex ratio, more bucks may be born each year. Therefore, in some areas, you actually can increase the number of bucks born by shooting more does.”“Quality Deer Management: Guidelines for Implementation,” 6. Agricultural Extension Service, The University of Tennessee. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publications/p... (last accessed November 2008)

Also read

ANATOMY OF A "DOE" HUNT:

How Killing Female Deer at the Watchung Reservation Increased Birth Rates and Reproducti

http://www.hnva.net/anatomy.html

 

Strieter-Lite® reflectors to dramatically reduce Deer Vehicle Accident

Strieter-Lite® reflectors to dramatically reduce Deer Vehicle Accident and other non-lethal way to co-exist with urban wildlife

The Problem

Every year deer-vehicle collisions take a huge toll in lives, money and time.

Last year there were: 1

    * An estimated actual 1,500,000 deer-vehicle collisions.
    * Over 110 deaths and tens of thousands of injuries.
    * Over $1.2 billion in property damage.
    * Escalating insurance premiums.
    * Increasing carcass removal costs.
    * Increasing accident investigation costs.

1. Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

 In a report published in September, 2009, State Farm indicated that the deer-vehicle collision frequency across the United States has jumped 18% in the last five years!  To put it another way, one of these unfortunate encounters occurs every 26 seconds (although they are much more likely during the last three months of the year and in the early evening).  The average property damage cost of these incidents was $3,050, up 3.4 percent from a year ago.

The report includes a U.S. map showing the percentage increase in each state.  For example, California (22%), Oregon (9%), Washington (19%), Colorado (19%), Nebraska (54%), Iowa (17%), Minnesota (9%), Illinois (3%), Michigan (14%), New York (28%), North Carolina (33%), Florida (38%), Alabama (16%), Texas (33%).
But there is a solution . . .
http://www.strieter-lite.com/sites.html

From Cayuga Heights Website.

For example, there are roadside reflector technologies such as the Streiter-lite system, which uses reflected light from the headlights of oncoming cars to alert deer. This system has been installed in numerous locations around the world. Its effectiveness in reducing deer-vehicle collisions has been studied, showing results of 78-90% (see graph at right which shows accident rates before and after installation of reflectors).9


There is a Strieter-lite system installation in Owego, New York, just 30 miles South of Ithaca. According to the Owego traffic engineer, the reduction of deer-vehicle collisions has been high, nearly 100%.10 The cost of installing this system may also be reduced by federal grant support.11



Another promising technology, the Roadside Animal Detection System (RADS), takes a different approach. RADS uses radio sensors to detect large animals approaching a roadway. If an animal gets too near a road, the sensor activates a warning signal, alerting drivers to be cautious and slow down. One study in Switzerland found that such animal detection systems produced a reduction in collisions of up to 82 percent.12




Fencing is another proven alternative which can be used on its own or in combination with the options shown above. According to several studies, wildlife fencing, if used correctly, has the documented potential to reduce deer-vehicle collsions dramatically. One study in Banff, Alberta, for example, showed that fencings systems reduced collisions by 80%.13
There is also data suggesting that vehicle speed is correlated with the rate of deer-vehicle collisions, so more strict enforcement of the speed limit may be helpful. Community education programs that teach drivers how to drive more safely and avoid deer-vehicle collisions could further contribute to a reduction of collision risk.
Each of these alternatives to a bait and shoot program offers a documented potential to significantly reduce the risk of deer-vehicle collsions, and without negative side-effects, including the safety risks associated with the annual discharge of weapons in a densely settled community. Mayor Gilmore has spoken at a public meeting of allocating initial funding of $50,000 to a deer killing program. And as outside experts who have spoken at meetings have confirmed, a bait and shoot program is not a one-time solution, but rather a yearly endeavor.14 Thus, the public safety risks, the cost to tax payers, and the moral weight of killing human-habituated deer would continue to accrue year after year.
We can do better. Resources invested in sensible, nonviolent alternatives are a far better investment as they will provide immediate results, and will continue to offer value to the community for years to come.

http://www.cayugadeer.org/alternatives.htm

Deer Contraception WORKS and IT WORKS WELL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cBxVySosLk

According to Dr. Jay Kirkpatrick, deer contraception expert, who explains the startling successes in deer contraception, its authorization for use and availability. Dr. Kirkpatrick is the founder and Director of the Science and
Conservation Center, Montana. He has worked with
contraception on 90 species of animals, including wild horses, several species of deer, African elephants and water buffalo .

For more information, please visit: www.pzpinfo.org

Wildlife Contraception Response to DNRE Supervisor
http://mathew5-7.blogspot.com/2010/10/wildlife-contraception-response-to-dnre.html




http://www.triorganics.com/g/Deer_resistant_garden?gclid=CIXTkNe0s6YCFQty5QodXCLQnQ



http://www.amazon.com/Wild-Neighbors-Humane-Approach-Wildlife/dp/1555913091



Humane Alternatives
http://www.netandboltcruelty.net/humane.htm

Overall the hunting industry wants to ignore all humane solution to "deal" with deer because they want to continue to make the public believe that hunting is the "only" solution when in fact hunting is the problem.

Same with our bear


How to co-exist with bears peacefully and also there is a section on bear birth control ( wildlife contraception. )
http://www.bearsmart.com/

What the government isn't telling you about mad deer disease.

WISCONSIN DNR TRIES TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THERE IS NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT MAD DEER DISEASE.

"My son and I went bull hunting this weekend," boasted Tom Hauge,
director of the Wisconsin DNR program on chronic wasting disease. "We
had a perfectly grand time. We have always butchered our deer ourselves.
I may very well be having venison for supper."

What the government isn't telling you about mad deer disease.



IN 1990 JOHN GUMMER (FORMER AGRICULTURE MINISTER) TRIES TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT BEEF IS "SAFE" FROM MAD COW BY GIVING THE HAMBURGER TO HIS DAUGHTER.

"There is no need for people to be worried and I can say perfectly honesty I shall go on eating beef as my children shall go on eating beef because there is no need to be worried"click here for the video
17 year later John Gummer watches his friends daughter die from Mad Cow Disease and Prions are the same agent in Mad Deer Disease aka CWD which the hunters are "giving" to the pantries and the Dept of Natural Resource knows damn well about. It can take anywhere from 10-40 years to incubate but once it starts attacking its a quick and painful death. People from UK are still dying to this day from Mad Cow related diseases.

"This is the worst thing I have ever seen," says Tracie McEwen. "I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daU1Lx7g6hA

Prion diseases are so awful and the proteins so unpredictable that scientists take extraordinary precautions against infection when studying them in the lab. Patrick Bosque, a neurologist at the University of Colorado in Denver, studied prions in hamsters and mice, which do not appear to be transmissible to people. Yet he routinely wore disposable gloves, shoe covers and a gown, and avoided carrying his lab notebook or other potentially contaminated material out of the lab. Whenever he conducted a procedure that might spray or splash prions, he worked in a special hood to shield his face and upper arms. "Then you're going to tell me I'm going to eat deer?" Bosque asked. "I definitely would not eat deer I thought had been infected."


Is Beef at Risk of Mad Cow Disease Again?
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/45098/

Infected buck found 40 miles from Michigan's U.P.
http://www.freep.com/article/20101113/SPORTS10/101113053/Infected-buck-found-40-miles-from-Michigan-s-U.P.#ixzz15Clw2t5t

Deer Disease and CJD in Humans 1/18/99
Headline: Brain disease a slow goodbye
http://www.purefood.org/Meat/utahcjd.cfm
Mad Deer Disease Hits Wisconsin - Hunters Warned
Health Officials Studying Links
Between Disease And People

http://www.rense.com/general20/maddeerhunterswarned.htm

If Mad Cow Jumps To Humans
Why Not Mad Deer CWD Disease?
By Lou Kilzer
Scripps Howard News Service
6-5-2

http://www.rense.com/general25/deer.htm

Mad Deer Disease: No Joke for Meat-eaters
http://www.northernexpress.com/editorial/random.asp?id=675

Prions in CWD is the same agent that causes Creutzfeldt-Jakob is a rare, fatal illness often described as "fast Alzheimer's"  

At least seven people age 66 or younger -- all hunters or venison eaters -- are known to have died of Creutzfeldt-Jakob in the U.S. in the last nine years. The total number will never be known because there's no federal requirement that all cases be reported. Preliminary studies suggest, and some neurologists suspect, that CJD is more common than generally believed -- it's simply misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's. That raises the obvious question: How many people would die of chronic wasting disease before a doctor called it?
In a highly publicized case, three Wisconsin hunters who attended wild-game feasts died of neurological diseases. Two had Creutzfeldt-Jakob, one turned out to have another rare neurological ailment, Pick's disease. Tests are ongoing.
Another victim from Oklahoma died with a freezer full of venison. A 50-year-old Montana elk hunter died last summer; his brain tissue is now being analyzed at one of the world's foremost prion labs, at the University of California in San Francisco. Test results are pending.


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Can humans catch 'Mad Deer Disease'?
Wednesday, May 21, 2003
By Michael Woods, Post-Gazette National Bureau



"Our own nightmare here in the United States is chronic wasting disease of deer," Dr. Corrie Brown said yesterday at the 103rd national meeting of the American Society for Microbiology. Brown, of the University of Georgia in Athens, is an expert on infectious diseases in animals which are used as food.
Chronic wasting disease, also termed "Mad Deer Disease," is caused by a strange infectious protein -- termed a prion (pree-on). CWD also occurs in elk.
It's a cousin of the prions responsible for fatal brain diseases in other animals and humans. Among them are Mad Cow Disease, or bovine spongiform encephalitis, which decimated cattle herds in the United Kingdom and Europe in the 1990s and spread to people who ate infected beef.
About 130 people in Britain have developed the human version of Mad Cow Disease, which is known as variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. The infection is fatal, usually within 2 years after symptoms appear. Estimates of the human toll during the next 80 years range from 540 to 50,000.


http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20030521deer0521p5.asp

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Human incubation is 20 to 40 years, but no one survives more than two years after Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) goes active. Unlike AIDS, CJD can kill almost all known species of vertebrates. Unlike bacteria or virus, Prions are not killed by several minutes of boiling, baking, chlorine, alcohol or by any known antibiotic or antiviral agent.


What Soffe and other morticians also worry about are the cases of undiagnosed CJD. The disease is difficult to diagnose without a brain biopsy or autopsy -- and CJD has symptoms nearly identical to Alzheimer's. There is evidence that some cases of Alzheimer's have been misdiagnosed CJD cases. Often cited is a Yale study that found that six of 46 people who reportedly died from Alzheimer's actually had CJD.

More Serious than AIDS: Creutzfeldt-Jakob


Sterilization does not kill prions. They can take extreamly high temperatures even surviving cremation and become released into the air after such burning. Prions are virtually indestructible. Hundreds of scientific reports describe how prions cannot be frozen to death, do not respond to any antibiotics or chemical treatments and withstand temperatures of approximately 1000 degrees F. However, only one study ever done (or released to the public...) on invasive, reusable medical (tonsillectomy) instruments in the UK, over 50% of the instruments were found to be contaminated with deadly prions AFTER REPEATED STERILIZATIONS.

Mad cow disease, chronic wasting disease and similar ailments are all thought to be caused by misshapen forms of special proteins known as prions. In the case of chronic wasting, research shows infection can occur even by proximity to sick deer.

In areas infected with CWD, up to 10 percent or more of deer are found to carry the disease.
Both are transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, or TSEs. They can both be passed from animal to animal, though by different means, and are thought to be caused by misshapen forms of proteins known as prions. These deformed prions eat holes in a creature's brain, inevitably leading todeath.

At the same time, the CDC acknowledged several puzzling cases of patients who died of neurological diseases after eating wild game. In 2003, doctors at the VA Hospital in Seattle reported Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in three hunters; the CDC would not investigate, saying there was no evidence the men ate tainted meat. A 2002 study documented three Wisconsin men who regularly ate venison and took part in large "game feasts"; two were diagnosed with CJD and one was diagnosed with Pick's disease, a form of dementia.

CWD is spreading

The disease was long thought to be limited in the wild to a relatively small endemic area in northeastern Colorado, southeastern Wyoming and southwestern Nebraska, but it has recently been found in new areas of these states, as well as in wild deer and elk in western South Dakota, and wild deer in northern Illinois, south-central New Mexico, northeastern and central Utah, south-central and south-eastern Wisconsin, central New York, north-east West Virginia, Kansas and west and south-central Saskatchewan. Also, CWD positive moose has recently been discovered in the endemic area of Colorado

They (prions) are also impervious to radiation.”
We're dealing with something that science at the moment simply doesn't fully understand. Total honesty with the public is the only responsible way to proceed."
There is an illness in the wild, leaving a trail of questions as it spreads from state to state.
Are these animals healthy, or stricken with a deadly illness known as chronic wasting disease?

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Hunters turn up CWD in W.Va. deer herd



CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Preliminary test results indicate the chronic wasting disease (CWD) agent was present in five hunter-harvested deer collected in Hampshire County, W.Va., during the 2008 deer firearms hunting season.

“As part of our agency’s ongoing and intensive CWD monitoring effort, samples were collected from 1,355 hunter-harvested deer brought to game checking stations in Hampshire County and one station near the southern Hampshire County line in Hardy County,” noted Frank Jezioro, director for the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources.

The five CWD positive deer included one 4.5 year-old doe, two 2.5 year-old bucks, one 4.5 year-old buck and one 1.5 year-old buck.

Harvest area

All five of the latest positive deer were harvested within the Hampshire County CWD Containment Area, that portion of Hampshire County located north of U.S. Route 50.

However, the CWD agent previously has been detected outside the containment area but still within Hampshire County.


The area in Hampshire County appears to continue to expand as one of the most recent infected deer was approximately 5 miles northeast of any previous known infected deer location.

Detection
The disease has now been detected in a total of 37 deer in Hampshire County — two road-killed deer, one in 2005 and one in 2008; four deer collected by the DNR in 2005; five deer collected by the DNR in 2006; one hunter-harvest deer taken during the 2006 deer season; three deer collected by the DNR in 2007; six hunter-harvested deer taken during the 2007 deer season; 11 deer collected by the DNR in 2008; and five hunter-harvested deer taken during the 2008 deer season.
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So how do you safely dispose of stricken animals?

It isn't as simple as burying their carcasses, or even incinerating them.

Prions are simply proteins, not living organisms, and they can survive almost anything, even hundreds of degrees of heat. Placing infected tissue in a landfill simply removes it, but scientists worry that the prions can leach through soil and groundwater, and spread.

Incineration is possible, but it isn't as easy as burning the carcass in a fire. Temperatures of more than 1,100 degrees Fahrenheit — sometimes up to 1,800 degrees — are required to effectively neutralize prions. Unlike most bacteria, regular cooking won't help at all.

Even many of sterilization techniques used in hospitals, such as autoclaving, are not necessarily effective — though some may be when infected material is dipped in sodium hydroxide, or lye and heated well above the boiling point of water.

A combination of heat — about 275 degrees Fahrenheit — and bursts of unimaginably high pressure — over 100,000 psi — showed promise in reducing prion infectivity, at least in processed meats like hot dogs, in research published last year.

And a similar method has become the default process for getting rid of infected animals. Large vat-like machines known as alkaline hydrolysis tissue digesters, one of which Powers' lab operates, can essentially dissolve entire carcasses.

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Infected material is placed in a solution of potassium hydroxide — also known as caustic potash — for at least six hours, at 300 degrees Fahrenheit and 60 psi, about four times ambient air pressure.

All remains at the end is a sterile brown, syrupy liquid that can be hauled away to compost.
"It's like a big steam cooker," Powers says. "That'll take care of the prions."

"Disposal issues are tough," says Barbara Powers, director of Colorado State University's Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory.

Venison sausage and mad deer disease /CWD - What going to happen to the people at the pantries?

CWD is now in 14 states plus 2 Canadian Province
Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York (only from CWD containment area), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia (only from Hampshire County), Wisconsin and Wyoming; as well as the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. 

CDC Warns Against Exposure to 'Mad Cow'-Like Brain Diseases

Posted: May 23, 2011

Fish and Wildlife Spends billions to manipulate deer habitat for production of large herds

Its amazing the extent that State DNR would go to create large deer herds in attempt to produce as many antlered deer as possible and growing fawns like they were crops. This is what hunters says on their "deer management" website on "caring for fawn" to ensure abundance of deer for recreational hunting.





"Additionally, keep an eye on your predator population and do what you can to control them, but especially in areas with less than ideal fawning habitat. "

"There is quite a bit of time between now and deer season, but the deer you should be thinking about is the one you will be harvesting (KILL) about 5 1/2 years from now. "

"Any practice that removes ground cover during the fawning season should be discouraged if you want to improve the fawn crop in your area."


"Research has shown that high quality deer habitat can produce good fawns crops even with dense predator populations."

"On the flip side, barren ground with a heavily used forest understory can spell “poor fawn crop.” If this problem is not addressed, expect deer numbers in the area to decline over time. Hey, if the fawns can’t survive and you shoot the rest, what’s left?"

"In our recent spotlight deer surveys, we noted an increase in fawn numbers and an increase in deer numbers,” he said. "

"Due to the antler restrictions and adequate forage available, hunter should see older bucks with larger antlers this season."




Hunters "complain" about deer vehicle accidents and overpopulation yet THEY want to create large deer herd for hunting opportunity!






Here is the food plots..so much money and time spend on "conserving" land to use as killing field and deer production.




"Good fawn production" "Maximum antler growth"











What anti-huntig league and organization been saying for years about how hunting is not about "reducing" deer population but to "produce" deer abunace to ensure plenty of big racked "trophy" deer because that is what the wildlife killers wants and will pay for and how the state can continue make revenue of the slaughter.

How does hunting creates surplus animals?


1.) Bucks are killed by hunters
2.) Does produce extra offspring (fawns)
3.) Fewer bucks means more nutritious forage for fawns and adult does.
4.) Habitat is manipulated (burning vegetation, timber-cutting, etc.) to provide more food.
6.) Abnormally high populations of deer result year after year.


Here is the fire they create (how much does this cost and how many wildlife are killed or displaced??)











Some of the fire they created that went out of control








In conclusion all that "wonderful" talk that hunters give you about wildlife "conservation" and how the money that come from the sale of hunting license and tag goes to "wildlife management" you see what its really about. So much money spent to create large herd of deer and at the same time overpopulation thus deer vehicle accident. Hunters/DNR continues to contradict themselves by saying they want to "reduce" deer population but in reality they are creating them. The evidence is right there and other heavily hunted states are doing the same thing. So the next question is..

Should state wildlife agencies help pay for DVA's victims?