Hunters Excuse- "They will spread diseases and we must control them"

First of all CWD the most serious of all disease were first spread by Elk and Deer farming when hunters were feeding rendered animals to grow large rack and because of hunting with their baiting and supplement feeding it continued to spread today though they banned feeding rendered animals they still supplement feed deer or bait when the deer congregates and that is how it's spread.. (although with the hunting public who knows if they still feed rendered animals)



"As you can see by reading this article [below] in this afternoon's Capital Times of Madison, word is slowly leaking out about what has apparently been a massive decade-long feeding of "supplements" (including meat and bone meal as mineral and protein) to wild deer in the heart of the "kill zone," the area of the WI Chronic Wasting Disease outbreak.

Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination.

As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers. "

http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/stauber6702.cfm

Bovine TB is another disease that can kill human and animals and it's spread by supplement feeding and baiting




same as CWD. Bovine TB is found in Michigan and spreading http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=507733 . They believe killing will "eliminate" the diseases but in Wisconsin they have killed thousands of deer since 2002 and CWD is still prevalent. The main cause of spread is hunters supplement feeding and baiting deer and Elk although they are "prohibiting" baiting and supplement feeding certain areas are still allowed in "Non-CWD Zone" in  Wisconsin and in private land.  Also when they gut the deer and leave the gut pile what other animals could be consuming a diseased deer?



CWD is now in 14 states plus 2 Canadian Province
Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York (only from CWD containment area), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia (only from Hampshire County), Wisconsin and Wyoming; as well as the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan.

Overall it's not just CWD but other wildlife diseases which hunting can worsen the epidemic

Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060714174141.htm

"One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss.

(Here you can see Compensatory Rebound Effect at work)

Killing wild animals can also increase the proportion of the population that’s susceptible to disease by removing those individuals who have contracted a virus but have developed lifelong immunity as a result of their infection.




The effect can be so dramatic that in some cases hunting can increase not only the proportion of infections and deaths, but also the absolute numbers. For example, their model shows that in the case of swine fever, a highly infectious disease threatening boars and pigs in Europe, hunting can increase the number of infected individuals by twenty five percent.

If we want to preserve the hunted population, we should be careful about when we schedule the hunting season compared to birth season because if it’s too early or late, it can drive the population to extinction,” "

Hunters still seem to make excuses why it's "ok" for them to supplement feed deer (read my blogger)

http://mathew5-7.blogspot.com/2009/06/supplement-feeding-can-spread-cwd-yet.html

Wisconsin DNR is still allowing supplement feeding if the hunter pays more money and so long as you have sports hunting they will bait even if it's against the law in CWD zone.

In Wisconsin CWD are spreading yet there is still baiting deer and DNR is actually letting them with an extra charge. Why would they even do that if that is how CWD is spread? Ridiculous but not surprised at all!. As you read the article they also want to continue to supplement feed the deer for fear of deer numbers fa...lling (and ...all this time I thought hunting is about deer herd reduction) .

"I see people loading trucks with corn, carrots and sugar beets around my home in Grayling, and a friend called to say bait is widely sold even at the heart of the CWD management zone in Kent County.

It will be even harder to get Upper Peninsula hunters to accept a ban, because deer numbers there are below targets set by the Department of Natural Resources and Environment. And without supplemental winter feeding the population will drop even more.

The DNRE could charge $20-$30 for a license that lets people use small amounts of bait at a time or materials like salt licks and attractor blocks. Purchasing that license would acknowledge that the DNRE has the right to come onto a hunter's property to check the bait pile."
http://www.freep.com/article/20101118/SPORTS10/11180469/CWD-test-

Supplement Feeding can spread CWD yet hunters do it and supports it - WHY? cl
http://mathew5-7.blogspot.com/2009/06/supplement-feeding-can-spread-cwd-yet.html

175 deer test positive for cwd in wisconsin
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=329316#ixzz1F7y2TQ5k

Overall it's the sports hunting industry that will eventually bring deer to extinction from wildlife disease epidemic with their supplement feeding and baiting


HUNTERS CONTINUE TO DESTROY OUR WILDLIFE, WORSENING DISEASES AND MAY EVEN ONE DAY BRING DEER TO EXTINCTION. 

Lastly deer trafficking is very common so with hunters wanting their big rack deer the disease will continue to worsen in that way too.

What the government isn't telling you about mad deer disease.

WISCONSIN DNR TRIES TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THERE IS NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT MAD DEER DISEASE.

"My son and I went bull hunting this weekend," boasted Tom Hauge,
director of the Wisconsin DNR program on chronic wasting disease. "We
had a perfectly grand time. We have always butchered our deer ourselves.
I may very well be having venison for supper."

What the government isn't telling you about mad deer disease.



IN 1990 JOHN GUMMER (FORMER AGRICULTURE MINISTER) TRIES TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT BEEF IS "SAFE" FROM MAD COW BY GIVING THE HAMBURGER TO HIS DAUGHTER.

"There is no need for people to be worried and I can say perfectly honesty I shall go on eating beef as my children shall go on eating beef because there is no need to be worried"click here for the video
17 year later John Gummer watches his friends daughter die from Mad Cow Disease and Prions are the same agent in Mad Deer Disease aka CWD which the hunters are "giving" to the pantries and the Dept of Natural Resource knows damn well about. It can take anywhere from 10-40 years to incubate but once it starts attacking its a quick and painful death. People from UK are still dying to this day from Mad Cow related diseases.

"This is the worst thing I have ever seen," says Tracie McEwen. "I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daU1Lx7g6hA

Prion diseases are so awful and the proteins so unpredictable that scientists take extraordinary precautions against infection when studying them in the lab. Patrick Bosque, a neurologist at the University of Colorado in Denver, studied prions in hamsters and mice, which do not appear to be transmissible to people. Yet he routinely wore disposable gloves, shoe covers and a gown, and avoided carrying his lab notebook or other potentially contaminated material out of the lab. Whenever he conducted a procedure that might spray or splash prions, he worked in a special hood to shield his face and upper arms. "Then you're going to tell me I'm going to eat deer?" Bosque asked. "I definitely would not eat deer I thought had been infected."


Is Beef at Risk of Mad Cow Disease Again?
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/45098/

Infected buck found 40 miles from Michigan's U.P.
http://www.freep.com/article/20101113/SPORTS10/101113053/Infected-buck-found-40-miles-from-Michigan-s-U.P.#ixzz15Clw2t5t

Deer Disease and CJD in Humans 1/18/99
Headline: Brain disease a slow goodbye
http://www.purefood.org/Meat/utahcjd.cfm
Mad Deer Disease Hits Wisconsin - Hunters Warned
Health Officials Studying Links
Between Disease And People

http://www.rense.com/general20/maddeerhunterswarned.htm

If Mad Cow Jumps To Humans
Why Not Mad Deer CWD Disease?
By Lou Kilzer
Scripps Howard News Service
6-5-2

http://www.rense.com/general25/deer.htm

Mad Deer Disease: No Joke for Meat-eaters
http://www.northernexpress.com/editorial/random.asp?id=675

Prions in CWD is the same agent that causes Creutzfeldt-Jakob is a rare, fatal illness often described as "fast Alzheimer's"  

At least seven people age 66 or younger -- all hunters or venison eaters -- are known to have died of Creutzfeldt-Jakob in the U.S. in the last nine years. The total number will never be known because there's no federal requirement that all cases be reported. Preliminary studies suggest, and some neurologists suspect, that CJD is more common than generally believed -- it's simply misdiagnosed as Alzheimer's. That raises the obvious question: How many people would die of chronic wasting disease before a doctor called it?
In a highly publicized case, three Wisconsin hunters who attended wild-game feasts died of neurological diseases. Two had Creutzfeldt-Jakob, one turned out to have another rare neurological ailment, Pick's disease. Tests are ongoing.
Another victim from Oklahoma died with a freezer full of venison. A 50-year-old Montana elk hunter died last summer; his brain tissue is now being analyzed at one of the world's foremost prion labs, at the University of California in San Francisco. Test results are pending.


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Can humans catch 'Mad Deer Disease'?
Wednesday, May 21, 2003
By Michael Woods, Post-Gazette National Bureau



"Our own nightmare here in the United States is chronic wasting disease of deer," Dr. Corrie Brown said yesterday at the 103rd national meeting of the American Society for Microbiology. Brown, of the University of Georgia in Athens, is an expert on infectious diseases in animals which are used as food.
Chronic wasting disease, also termed "Mad Deer Disease," is caused by a strange infectious protein -- termed a prion (pree-on). CWD also occurs in elk.
It's a cousin of the prions responsible for fatal brain diseases in other animals and humans. Among them are Mad Cow Disease, or bovine spongiform encephalitis, which decimated cattle herds in the United Kingdom and Europe in the 1990s and spread to people who ate infected beef.
About 130 people in Britain have developed the human version of Mad Cow Disease, which is known as variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. The infection is fatal, usually within 2 years after symptoms appear. Estimates of the human toll during the next 80 years range from 540 to 50,000.


http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20030521deer0521p5.asp

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Human incubation is 20 to 40 years, but no one survives more than two years after Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) goes active. Unlike AIDS, CJD can kill almost all known species of vertebrates. Unlike bacteria or virus, Prions are not killed by several minutes of boiling, baking, chlorine, alcohol or by any known antibiotic or antiviral agent.


What Soffe and other morticians also worry about are the cases of undiagnosed CJD. The disease is difficult to diagnose without a brain biopsy or autopsy -- and CJD has symptoms nearly identical to Alzheimer's. There is evidence that some cases of Alzheimer's have been misdiagnosed CJD cases. Often cited is a Yale study that found that six of 46 people who reportedly died from Alzheimer's actually had CJD.

More Serious than AIDS: Creutzfeldt-Jakob


Sterilization does not kill prions. They can take extreamly high temperatures even surviving cremation and become released into the air after such burning. Prions are virtually indestructible. Hundreds of scientific reports describe how prions cannot be frozen to death, do not respond to any antibiotics or chemical treatments and withstand temperatures of approximately 1000 degrees F. However, only one study ever done (or released to the public...) on invasive, reusable medical (tonsillectomy) instruments in the UK, over 50% of the instruments were found to be contaminated with deadly prions AFTER REPEATED STERILIZATIONS.

Mad cow disease, chronic wasting disease and similar ailments are all thought to be caused by misshapen forms of special proteins known as prions. In the case of chronic wasting, research shows infection can occur even by proximity to sick deer.

In areas infected with CWD, up to 10 percent or more of deer are found to carry the disease.
Both are transmissible spongiform encephalopathies, or TSEs. They can both be passed from animal to animal, though by different means, and are thought to be caused by misshapen forms of proteins known as prions. These deformed prions eat holes in a creature's brain, inevitably leading todeath.

At the same time, the CDC acknowledged several puzzling cases of patients who died of neurological diseases after eating wild game. In 2003, doctors at the VA Hospital in Seattle reported Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease in three hunters; the CDC would not investigate, saying there was no evidence the men ate tainted meat. A 2002 study documented three Wisconsin men who regularly ate venison and took part in large "game feasts"; two were diagnosed with CJD and one was diagnosed with Pick's disease, a form of dementia.

CWD is spreading

The disease was long thought to be limited in the wild to a relatively small endemic area in northeastern Colorado, southeastern Wyoming and southwestern Nebraska, but it has recently been found in new areas of these states, as well as in wild deer and elk in western South Dakota, and wild deer in northern Illinois, south-central New Mexico, northeastern and central Utah, south-central and south-eastern Wisconsin, central New York, north-east West Virginia, Kansas and west and south-central Saskatchewan. Also, CWD positive moose has recently been discovered in the endemic area of Colorado

They (prions) are also impervious to radiation.”
We're dealing with something that science at the moment simply doesn't fully understand. Total honesty with the public is the only responsible way to proceed."
There is an illness in the wild, leaving a trail of questions as it spreads from state to state.
Are these animals healthy, or stricken with a deadly illness known as chronic wasting disease?

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Hunters turn up CWD in W.Va. deer herd



CHARLESTON, W.Va. — Preliminary test results indicate the chronic wasting disease (CWD) agent was present in five hunter-harvested deer collected in Hampshire County, W.Va., during the 2008 deer firearms hunting season.

“As part of our agency’s ongoing and intensive CWD monitoring effort, samples were collected from 1,355 hunter-harvested deer brought to game checking stations in Hampshire County and one station near the southern Hampshire County line in Hardy County,” noted Frank Jezioro, director for the West Virginia Division of Natural Resources.

The five CWD positive deer included one 4.5 year-old doe, two 2.5 year-old bucks, one 4.5 year-old buck and one 1.5 year-old buck.

Harvest area

All five of the latest positive deer were harvested within the Hampshire County CWD Containment Area, that portion of Hampshire County located north of U.S. Route 50.

However, the CWD agent previously has been detected outside the containment area but still within Hampshire County.


The area in Hampshire County appears to continue to expand as one of the most recent infected deer was approximately 5 miles northeast of any previous known infected deer location.

Detection
The disease has now been detected in a total of 37 deer in Hampshire County — two road-killed deer, one in 2005 and one in 2008; four deer collected by the DNR in 2005; five deer collected by the DNR in 2006; one hunter-harvest deer taken during the 2006 deer season; three deer collected by the DNR in 2007; six hunter-harvested deer taken during the 2007 deer season; 11 deer collected by the DNR in 2008; and five hunter-harvested deer taken during the 2008 deer season.
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So how do you safely dispose of stricken animals?

It isn't as simple as burying their carcasses, or even incinerating them.

Prions are simply proteins, not living organisms, and they can survive almost anything, even hundreds of degrees of heat. Placing infected tissue in a landfill simply removes it, but scientists worry that the prions can leach through soil and groundwater, and spread.

Incineration is possible, but it isn't as easy as burning the carcass in a fire. Temperatures of more than 1,100 degrees Fahrenheit — sometimes up to 1,800 degrees — are required to effectively neutralize prions. Unlike most bacteria, regular cooking won't help at all.

Even many of sterilization techniques used in hospitals, such as autoclaving, are not necessarily effective — though some may be when infected material is dipped in sodium hydroxide, or lye and heated well above the boiling point of water.

A combination of heat — about 275 degrees Fahrenheit — and bursts of unimaginably high pressure — over 100,000 psi — showed promise in reducing prion infectivity, at least in processed meats like hot dogs, in research published last year.

And a similar method has become the default process for getting rid of infected animals. Large vat-like machines known as alkaline hydrolysis tissue digesters, one of which Powers' lab operates, can essentially dissolve entire carcasses.

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Infected material is placed in a solution of potassium hydroxide — also known as caustic potash — for at least six hours, at 300 degrees Fahrenheit and 60 psi, about four times ambient air pressure.

All remains at the end is a sterile brown, syrupy liquid that can be hauled away to compost.
"It's like a big steam cooker," Powers says. "That'll take care of the prions."

"Disposal issues are tough," says Barbara Powers, director of Colorado State University's Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory.

Venison sausage and mad deer disease /CWD - What going to happen to the people at the pantries?

CWD is now in 14 states plus 2 Canadian Province
Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York (only from CWD containment area), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia (only from Hampshire County), Wisconsin and Wyoming; as well as the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. 

CDC Warns Against Exposure to 'Mad Cow'-Like Brain Diseases

Posted: May 23, 2011

Supplement Feeding can spread CWD yet hunters do it and supports it - WHY?

"Chronic wasting disease seems more likely to occur in areas where deer or elk are crowded or where they congregate at man-made Artificial feeding or baiting of deer and elk may compound the problem" (Williams / Young 1980)



There is no end to hunters lies and hypocrisy. Hunters tell non-hunters not to feed Deer because of risk of spreading wildlife disease especially Chronic Wasting Diseases yet they themselves feed them "deer supplements" just like you see in the photos and what are purpose of this "deer supplements"? To make the antlers grow, for deer herd size and more fawn birth.









Before we begin , what is Chronic Wasting Disease?

"Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is a transmissible neurological disease of of deer and elk that produces small lesions in brains of infected animals. "It is characterized by loss of body condition, behavioral abnormalities and death. CWD is classified as a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE), and is similar to mad cow disease in cattle"

What do many "deer manager" say about supplement feeding?

"Deer managers agree that supplemental feeding, whether it be protein pellets, whole cotton seed, or some other type of high-protein food, really helps local deer populations."

"Individual deer health is important for maintaining body mass, promoting maximum antler growth in bucks, and optimal milk production in does."

"Managing for proper nutrition in white-tailed deer is important for good body condition, good fawn production and recruitment, and maximum antler growth. Good nutrition can be accomplished by doing three things that involve proper habitat management, supplemental feeding, and the planting of food plots."

One website called "Buck management" Rationalize that its "ok" for them to supplement feed deer and risk CWD spread with this lame excuses.

"One thing to keep in mind: Deer are likely to concetrate somewhere - whether it be a water source, food source, bedding area, or travel corridor. Although providing supplemental food will concetrate deer, I suspect that if a disease or virus is present the pathogen will be passed on regardless of whether or not you provide supplemental feed."


P.129 "With supplemental feeding, it becomes very easy to maitain artificialy high deer densities and still obtain adequate results in terms of antler and body growth." Producing Quality Whitetails Revised Edition
Al Brothers and Murphy E. Ray, Jr.
Edited by Charly McTee

CWD was first spread by supplement feeding rendered animals for protein (antler and herd growth) . Comments about CWD from From Organic Consumer Association.

"As you can see by reading this article [below] in this afternoon's Capital Times of Madison, word is slowly leaking out about what has apparently been a massive decade-long feeding of "supplements" (including meat and bone meal as mineral and protein) to wild deer in the heart of the "kill zone," the area of the WI Chronic Wasting Disease outbreak.

Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination.

As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers.

Just about every hunting store sells deer feeders and supplement whether for baiting or for deer herd and antler growth just so little men (and women) can kill these beautiful animals for sports and trophy.








CWD is now in 14 states plus 2 Canadian Province
Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York (only from CWD containment area), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia (only from Hampshire County), Wisconsin and Wyoming; as well as the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan.