Showing posts with label compensatory rebound. Show all posts
Showing posts with label compensatory rebound. Show all posts

Monday, December 3, 2012

Hunters Excuse - "Conservation"



How to refute with a hunter Part 1 "Conservation"

   1. Hunters idea of "conservation" is to ensure enough "game" animal for future generations of killing for sports and trophy from birds to big "game" animals with the use of food plots,

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=food+plot+deer&cp=12&qe=Zm9vZCBwbG90IGRlZQ&qesig=QxRT8YKFPpMobzh8Vu41Pg&pkc=AFgZ2tkUZ4tuVgF-RA-5G8J5MzAA7R00pu40N8LMXYvRGM9oY9PdfE560hgzjqqbVk0DHXg0NKj4AQq_vOHvJ20ybEqDi7kIug&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1680&bih=750




manipulating deer habitat and of course using Compensatory Rebound Effect http://defendurbanwildlife.org/news/Compensatory%20Rebound%20Effect.pdf which the hunting industry knows very well about that is how they ensure enough deer to satisfy "sportsman" across America. . They tell the public money goes to land for "all" to enjoy but what they do not know is that same land that non killers are photographing nature will be the same land that will be used as a killing field for "sportsman" and the beautiful photograph of a buck deer, Elk, Moose etc will be killed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSruqFgktY and probably won't see them again instead it will be on some hunters wall or in a photograph with a dead animal on the ground gray in the eyes, blood in the mouth posed with the hunter sitting or standing by with smiles on his face that he was able to "conquer" such magnificent creature.



Here is more about "Conservation" which is an important read.

 Manipulating wildlife conservation for special interests


http://www.examiner.com/urban-wildlife-in-national/manipulating-wildlife-conservation-for-special-interests


Wildlife Conservation has an agenda - our taxes ensure unsound management


http://www.examiner.com/urban-wildlife-in-national/wildlife-conservation-has-an-agenda-our-taxes-ensure-unsound-management

 

The Myth of Trophy Hunting
as Conservation


http://www.animalrightsafrica.org/Archive/Hunting/The_%20Myth_of_Trophy_Hunting_as_Conservation.pdf


Wildlife Watching:
An Economic Boon to Communities


http://all-creatures.org/cash/cc2007-fa-ww.html


Eco-tourism is what brings the money but the hunting industry rarely mentions that because the NRA and the pro-kill Government wants the public to continue believing it's the "sportsman" who brings money. Then they say how they "boost" the economy yet with such small percentage of killers in America I would believe that is a bit of an exaggeration. Imagine how much money can be made by eco-tourism, bird watching, nature photography where MAJORITY of the population will enjoy but many do not want to get involved because of hunting that does takes place. "Sportsman" or American are only 4% of the American population but the reason they continue to "win" is the support of power and money (guns and political people who too have interest in hunting) which they get money from all the hunting propaganda. They do love their euphemism such as "conservation", "wildlife management", "love and respect nature". Psychopaths too were good with being the "nice" people but behind the facade lies a soulless monster.


Also how is "conservation" of land doing the non-killing public any good if we can' even feel safe in the woods during the fall. There is no peace in there just death and destruction as millions of hunters heads out into the forest blasting their guns, crossbows and bows and arrows to KILL.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVSruqFgktY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLsA2ze9zn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyRqMiZHJOA


Overall "Conservation" is just a euphemism , another name for propagating "game" animals for "sportsman" to kill not only for today but for the future. There is nothing "beautiful" about terror, pain, suffering, bloodshed and death to the innocent because that is what hunters love to show on their videos and websites about "conservation". I wonder what it would look like if they showed what really happens to the animals they "conserve" . One last thing I forgot to mention many popular "wildlife group" hooking up with the hunters (easy money , quick fix and brainwashed to think if you kill some you will have plenty of animals for "all" to enjoy which we know is a farce). Organization such as Nature Conservancy, National Wildlife Federation, World Wildlife Fund, Sierra Club, and of course Audubon.

Compensatory Rebound Effect (CRE) is REAL don't let the hunting public tell you otherwise



You will often get comments like this from Hunters. "CRE is still junk science."Compensatory Rebound Effect is the reason why killing does not work but the hunters and the hunting industry wants to deny it and rather call is 'AR propaganda" or "junk science" .  We  shall see for ourselves if  this is really "propaganda" or "junk science".  First of all

 What is Compensatory Rebound Effect?

"Reproductive rebound is a well documented population dynamic in deer and other mammals. Deer conceive multiple embryos but the number of fawns actually born is determined by a number of complex factors including nutrition and herd density. With competition for food reduced by a sudden drop in herd numbers, younger fawns will breed and females will give birth to twins and triplets instead of single fawns.In its 1990 report, "An Assessment of Deer Hunting in New Jersey," New Jersey Fish and Game offered a detailed example of this process. Its report shows that even during hunting seasons in which killing female deer was the objective (antlerless seasons), the remaining females had increased birthrates that not only replaced the ones killed, but increased the overall size of the herd. "http://www.pzpinfo.org/pzp_faqs.html



CRE is mentioned by others people who have nothing to do with Animal Rights.

"The researchers note that in each instance, disease outbreaks have worsened in response to the hunting.One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss."

Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060714174141.htm



And GUESS WHAT? The hunting industry knows darn well about it and uses it to produce more deer, that with the use of food plot http://www.google.com/images?oe=UTF-8&gfns=1&q=food+plot+and+hunting&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1551&bih=816, to really "boost" the deer population. They are so preoccupied with fawn birth to create  larger deer herd size and  their main interest in the buck fawns.

“By keeping the deer population below the carrying capacity of the available habitat, more forage (nutrition) is available per deer. Thus, does are healthier, reproductive success is higher and more does are able to carry two fawns. Ironically, this can result in a greater deer harvest each year. Depending on the relationship of the population and the carrying capacity, an „optimum sustained yield‟ can be achieved where a relatively high reproductive rate allows an abundant harvest each fall. With high-quality habitat and increased nutrition, the percentage ofdoe fawns that breed their first fall increases (sometimes up to 25 percent). Also, a higher percentage of yearling does produce two fawns instead of one. Because fawns are born at approximately a 1:1 sex ratio, more bucks may be born each year. Therefore, in some areas, you actually can increase the number of bucks born by shooting more does.”“Quality Deer Management: Guidelines for Implementation,” 6. Agricultural Extension Service, The University of Tennessee. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publications/p... (last accessed November 2008)

Also read

ANATOMY OF A "DOE" HUNT:

How Killing Female Deer at the Watchung Reservation Increased Birth Rates and Reproducti

http://www.hnva.net/anatomy.html

 

Monday, October 25, 2010

Compensatory Rebound Effect (CRE) is why killing does not work .

You will often get comments like this from Hunters. "CRE is still junk science."Compensatory Rebound Effect is the reason why killing does not work but the hunters and the hunting industry wants to deny it and rather call is 'AR propaganda" or "junk science" . We shall see for ourselves if this is really "propaganda" or "junk science". First of all
What is Compensatory Rebound Effect?
"Reproductive rebound is a well documented population dynamic in deer and other mammals. Deer conceive multiple embryos but the number of fawns actually born is determined by a number of complex factors including nutrition and herd density. With competition for food reduced by a sudden drop in herd numbers, younger fawns will breed and females will give birth to twins and triplets instead of single fawns.In its 1990 report, "An Assessment of Deer Hunting in New Jersey," New Jersey Fish and Game offered a detailed example of this process. Its report shows that even during hunting seasons in which killing female deer was the objective (antlerless seasons), the remaining females had increased birthrates that not only replaced the ones killed, but increased the overall size of the herd. "http://www.pzpinfo.org/pzp_faqs.html
CRE is mentioned by others people who have nothing to do with Animal Rights.
"The researchers note that in each instance, disease outbreaks have worsened in response to the hunting.One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss."
Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060714174141.htm
And GUESS WHAT? The hunting industry knows darn well about it and uses it to produce more deer, that with the use of food plot http://www.google.com/images?oe=UTF-8&gfns=1&q=food+plot+and+hunting&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1551&bih=816, to really "boost" the deer population. They are so preoccupied with fawn birth to create larger deer herd size and their main interest in the buck fawns.
“By keeping the deer population below the carrying capacity of the available habitat, more forage (nutrition) is available per deer. Thus, does are healthier, reproductive success is higher and more does are able to carry two fawns. Ironically, this can result in a greater deer harvest each year. Depending on the relationship of the population and the carrying capacity, an „optimum sustained yield‟ can be achieved where a relatively high reproductive rate allows an abundant harvest each fall. With high-quality habitat and increased nutrition, the percentage ofdoe fawns that breed their first fall increases (sometimes up to 25 percent). Also, a higher percentage of yearling does produce two fawns instead of one. Because fawns are born at approximately a 1:1 sex ratio, more bucks may be born each year. Therefore, in some areas, you actually can increase the number of bucks born by shooting more does.”“Quality Deer Management: Guidelines for Implementation,” 6. Agricultural Extension Service, The University of Tennessee. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publications/p... (last accessed November 2008)
Also watch
ANATOMY OF A "DOE" HUNT:
How Killing Female Deer at the Watchung Reservation Increased Birth Rates and Reproduction



Saturday, April 18, 2009

WHAT IS COMPENSATORY REBOUND EFFECT AND WHY KILLING DEER WORSENS DEER POPULATION?.

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Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics

One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss."

From a website on PZP (Immunocontraception)


"What is reproductive rebound?

Reproductive rebound is a well documented population dynamic in deer and other mammals. Deer conceive multiple embryos but the number of fawns actually born is determined by a number of complex factors including nutrition and herd density. With competition for food reduced by a sudden drop in herd numbers, younger fawns will breed and females will give birth to twins and triplets instead of single fawns.
In its 1990 report, "An Assessment of Deer Hunting in New Jersey," New Jersey Fish and Game offered a detailed example of this process. Its report shows that even during hunting seasons in which killing female deer was the objective (antlerless seasons), the remaining females had increased birthrates that not only replaced the ones killed, but increased the overall size of the herd."

From the PA Game Commission website

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Game Commissions knows about "compensatory rebound", read on...

"Some people disagree with shooting antlerless deer; they reason that protecting them -- thus maintaining a maximum breeding base -- will assure large numbers of antlered bucks because terrific numbers of deer will be born each year and button bucks wouldn't be harvested. But bear in mind, a smaller herd in balance with its habitat can produce as many fawns as an oversized herd on poor range. Does have fewer young when habitat quality is lacking."

*(That means mass killing of deer and sudden drop WILL result in more deer in time for the deer killing season and the vicious cycle continues).

What else do they have to say?

"We strive to maintain a deer herd that each year that can provide quality sport to more than a million hunters. "
(I thought it was about "reducing" deer population)

Lets look at ANATOMY OF A "DOE" HUNT:

How Killing Female Deer at the Watchung Reservation Increased Birth Rates and Reproduction


The Watchung Reservation in Union County was the first area to use "Community Based Deer Management". From 1993 to 2001, more than 1,000 deer were either killed or wounded in the Reservation. In 1994, an infra-red air count of deer showed only 139 deer on 4,600 acres of land, 2,000 of which was the Reservation. That means that there were less than 100 deer in the Reservation itself when the hunts were initiated.

The deer in the reservation lived under non-hunting conditions for nearly a century before hunting was initiated, and had only reached a population height of 100, yet, in nine short years, more than 1,000 deer were produced and killed, and dozens, perhaps hundreds of others, were created and immigrated to other neighboring areas. How is such a thing possible? This the effect that hunting has on deer, and, thanks to the reports produced on the Reservation hunts, we now have the evidence that proves it.

The Watchung Reservation deer hunts targeted females and were designed to kill as many females as possible. After each female deer was killed at the Reservation, her womb was cut open and the fetuses, still alive, were removed. The study detailing the results of this can be found on page 25 of the 1997 Union County Parks Department report titled "Deer Management Program For Watchung Reservation".

All of the pregnant females killed during the first hunt had only one fetus in her womb. No twins or triplets were recorded at all. After the second year, 57% of the pregnant deer that were killed had twins in their wombs. After the third year, 60% of the pregnant deer killed had twins, and 8% had triplets. From this point on, the overwhelming majority of deer that were pregnant at the Reservation were producing either two or three offspring. In other words, as soon as hunting was introduced, the deer reacted with a massive increase in offspring production.

This is the heart of the matter: Before being hunted, female deer gave birth to only one child. Afterwards, it was double or triple that. This is what hunting does to deer. It is the reason why killing deer, female or male, doesn't reduce deer herds

Here is what an Anti-hunting organization wrote back in 2001 while hunters accuses them of "propaganda" because they fear the truth being exposed to the public

"Why do states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, PA, GA and TX which have the most hunters also have the most deer? Why have deer populations in these as well as other heavily hunted states steadily risen in the past three or four decades? "


NOW - WHICH STATES HAVE THE HIGHEST DEER VEHICLE ACCIDENTS? List from 2005-2006 even today many of the states still listed.

According to State Farm's claim statistics, the 10 states with the most deer crashes between June 1, 2005 and June 30, 2006 account for more than half of all such claims. (all big hunting states mind you)

Pennsylvania
Michigan
Illinois
Ohio
Georgia
Virginia
Minnesota
Texas
Indiana
South Carolina
Also included in the list is
NJ
Wisconsin

I HOPE THE PUBLIC REALIZE THAT HUNTING IS NOT ABOUT "REDUCING" THERE IS TOO MUCH BLOODY PROFIT TO ME MADE IN THE EXPENSE OF INNOCENT LIVES FROM HUMAN TO NON-HUMAN ANIMALS.


From an Anti-hunting website

" Game management is designed to insure a bumper crop of replacement "targets" each fall. Lots of "targets" means lots of hunters. Lots of hunters mean revenue for the state and federal wildlife management coffers. Consequently, deer populations are tied to and explicitly managed by permits. That is the nuts and bolts of deer management in America. The problem with the agenda is that it is working too well. Many game managers will freely admit that white-tailed deer exceed prudent carrying capacity in many areas. This is often used as a ploy to promote hunting, but often when we tamper with nature it can backfire. "


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Plus State Wildlife Agencies continues to reject deer birth control because they need the abundance of deer for hunters.

State Wildlife Agencies DNR/DEC will all try to tell you its the deer's fault and how the hunters are the one to "help control" the Deer Vehicle Accidents. Article from Ohio DNR.


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Quote from Ohio's DNR

"It’s no accident, however, that this time of year is also one of Ohio’s most popular hunting seasons. From early October through late January, thousands of avid outdoorsmen and women take to the fields across the state in pursuit of white-tailed deer. In fact, Ohio deer hunters play an important role in keeping these roadway accidents from being more common."

(YEAH RIGHT!)

They did not mention a thing about how hunters (to protect the hunting industry) are in the woods spooking the deer . Deer Vehicle Accident is still high today in Ohio so I guess hunting did nothing to "control" it.

Here is some fact about hunting and Deer Vehicle Accidents.

Facts #1


Deer Vehicle Accidents are the highest during hunting season Oct, Nov, Dec.

Fact #2

The report also confirms that most wild animal collisions occur during early morning (5am-7am) or after sunset (5pm-11pm). Deer hunting is permitted one half hour before sunrise and one half hour after sunset.

Fact #3

"Hunters scare deer out of the woods through a common practice known as "driving" the deer. One group of hunters will walk through the woods, driving the deer towards another hunter or group of hunters on the other side, who are waiting to ambush and kill the deer. Of course, this means the deer are running to escape the hunters, which causes many of them to run onto roads."

Fact #4

The DNR and Wildlife Agencies provides deer for hunters recreational purpose.

"We strive to maintain a deer herd that each year that can provide quality sport to more than a million hunters. "

Fact #5

They not only reject deer birth control and fear it like its the plague, but deceive the public on deer birth control facts..

Fact #6

They know that mass killing deer is only temporarily because of compensatory rebound effect there will always be an abundance of deer ready for the next deer killing season and why DVA's starts to rise after the summer when twins and triplets are born and of course peaks in the late fall and early winter from hunting and rut. But rut is part of nature where hunting is NOT.

Fact #7

Remember this quote from the PA. Game Commission?

"will assure large numbers of antlered bucks because terrific numbers of deer will be born each year"

So that means that more buck deer in a rut running to find mate in the Fall, the buck deer population created by the State Agencies for trophy hunters which is the main reason hunters buy their killing tags.

DNR and Wildlife Agencies know ALL of it yet lies to the public. Remember that Deer Birth Control is the ONLY solution we have today and if the public wants to continue with deer problem and deer vehicle accidents then use the hunters to kill the deer because that's what they love to do. After years and years of Deer Vehicle Accidents and same lame excuses its time the public wakes up to reality that hunting is NOT the "SOLUTION" but the PROBLEM!

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Even the Wildlife Conservation Agents says this about hunters in the forest causing DVA's

"Again in November, during rifle season, which runs from Nov. 10-20, deer on roads will be a common sighting.
With a lot of hunters in the woods, they will push deer out of wooded areas, making them run across the road,” Missouri Department of Conservation Agent Dan Akin said."

One last thing - Hunters kill deer natural predators (wolves, coyotes and bobcats) so that all the more ensures abundance of deer for killing opportunities.

Here is what YOU can do to help appose deer hunting in your area right now. click here


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The most important thing I forgot to mention is the hunters also kill deer's natural predators ie. Wolves, coyotes and bobcats so that way the hunting organization can keep the deer population abnormally high plus habitat is manipulated (burning vegetation, timber-cutting, etc.

Overall Deer "management" is a sham!