If hunting is about "reduction" why then in "deer management" websites so much emphasis is put on food plots and PRODUCTION of fawns preferably the males? Here are some example of what I mean and please read carefully.
"The number of new deer added to the pre-hunt population is a function of the number of fawns born and their survival until until the fall. The number of fawns born is primarily determined by the number of does, but the survival of fawns, however, is mostly dependent upon the physical condition of does, although predation is certainly a factor is some situations. A large number of does that are nutritionally stressed will not raise as many fawns to be added to the fall population as a lesser number of healthy does." Deer Hunting and Management TX
"Thus, late fall up to early winter is very important for deer herd managers to impact and influence fawn production, so make sure the plant communities on your property is properly managed deer habitat. " Deer Hunting and Management TX
"Some people disagree with shooting antlerless deer; they reason that protecting them -- thus maintaining a maximum breeding base -- will assure large numbers of antlered bucks because terrific numbers of deer will be born each year and button bucks wouldn't be harvested. "PA. Game Commission
"Historically in all states, including West Virginia, hunting regulation have been restrictive during the period of deer restoration with mainly short buck-only season to protect does and encourage deer population growth. As deer becomes more abundant, more liberal hunting regulations including antlerless harvest are required to limit population growth." Fundamentals of Deer Management W. VA.
" Fawn crop is often density dependent. Generally, as doe numbers increase, fawn production per doe decreases. Fewer does can and often do raise more fawns to weaning age than more abundant does." QDM
Doesn't sound like reduction there does it? Continue...
"Deer managers agree that supplemental feeding, whether it be protein pellets, whole cotton seed, or some other type of high-protein food, really helps local deer populations." Deer Management TX
"Managing for proper nutrition in white-tailed deer is important for good body condition, good fawn production and recruitment, and maximum antler growth. Good nutrition can be accomplished by doing three things that involve proper habitat management, supplemental feeding, and the planting of food plots." Deer Managemetn TX
What is the definition of "recruit"? 1. to raise or strengthen (an army, navy, deer herd) by enlisting personnel (in this case, fawns) 3. to enlist (new members), as for a party or organization (or deer to kill for sports) 2. to increase or maintain by supplying anew; replenish (which of course is deer, preferably bucks)
more statements about "adding" deer.
P.129 "With supplemental feeding, it becomes very easy to maitain artificialy high deer densities and still obtain adequate results in terms of antler and body growth." Producing Quality Whitetails Revised Edition Al Brothers and Murphy E. Ray, Jr. Edited by Charly McTee
" Thus, does are healthier, reproductive success is higher and more does are able to carry two fawns. Ironically, this can result in a greater deer harvest each year." Quality Deer Management
"With high quality habitat and increased nutrition, the percentage of doe fawns that breed their first fall increases (sometimes up to 25 percent).. Also, a higher percentage of yearling does produce two fawns instead of one." Quality Deer Management
"Because fawns are born at approximately a 1:1 sex ratio, more bucks maybe born each year. Therefore, in some areas, you actually can increase the number of bucks born by shooting more does." Quality Deer Management
"Other habitat management practices that can improve the quantity and quality of forage available to deer (thus increasing carrying capacity)" Quality Deer Management
Create more land to plant food plots thus more deer you can hold on that area.
"We strive to maintain a deer herd that each year that can provide quality sport to more than a million hunters." PA Deer FAQ
"Let's assume that 75 percent of a whitetail's daily food consumption consists of prime agricultural crops, the other 25 percent of native browse. Such heavy utilization of food plots isn't theoretical; at North American Whitetail's Fort Perry Plantation in Georgia, agricultural crops make up 80 percent of the herd's annual diet. And under management, the deer density increased to more than five times that of natural carrying capacity - even as the health of the natural habitat steadily improved. Here's the key to why whitetails do so well when provided with the right food plots:" North American Whitetails
"If you're not providing the local herd with enough of the right groceries for maximum antler and body size, as well as high fawn survival, you're not enjoying the full benefits of sound management." North American Whitetails
"Varmints, specifically coyotes, are the biggest threats to fawn recruitment on most land throughout the United States. "Deer Management TX
(graphic came from TX Deer Management website)
It's bad enough hunting public wants to create land to kill but they want to "team up" with farmers and even land owners.
"Last year we planted a total of 6 food plots from soybean (biologic) to fall foliage. We also had a local farmer plant 26 acres of field corn and another 2 acres of sweet corn. Again we saw positive effects of what can happen when quality food plots are planted and knowing the PH and how much fertilizer to use." The New York Hunters.
"If you are fortunate enough to have permission to hunt on someone else's private property; ask permission to establish a whitetail deer food plot and tell the owner of that hunting land exactly what you want and plan to do. If the hunting land owner is a farmer, you may even get some help with the site preparation and use of equipment. "
Is this the reason why Dept Of Natural Resources (DNR) and hunters rejects deer birth control? And the reason why the most heavily hunted states always have too many deer thus high Deer Vehicle Accidents? Deer will also seek refuge to other possibly non-hunting areas from gunshots and hunters terrorizing the forest meaning with hunting you will wonder why you see more deer in your area then you did before, that's because the deer are trying to find peace for themselves and their families from wildlife terrorists. Now you know that the intention of the hunting organization is to produce deer to where there is enough to satisfy their sick bloodlust year after year and good blood money for the pro-kill government to create more killing fields as human also die from DVA's.
Let's not forget "Compensatory rebound effect" which most hunters know and obviously DNR knows and use it to their advantage.
"Culling"/hunting does not work. It is more than neutralized by a natural phenomenon called the "Compensatory Rebound Effect". When food become scarce, deer would naturally curtail their reproductive rate down to no fawn or single fawn. When food is plentiful, their reproductive rate would increase to twins and triplets. The ideal is a marginal "over-population" so that the reproductive rate is kept low and the population remains stable in the long term. If a significant portion of the population is culled to below carrying capacity, what is accomplished is the raising of the reproductive rate to the point when the next year WILL show a higher "overpopulation" (Which the hunting organization knows about and use that to their advantage)"
"Take a piece of land with a carry capacity of, say 8 does. If it contains 10 does, their total fawn crop would be around 3 fawns, totaling 13 deer at the end of the year. Whereas, if the 10 does were reduced to 5 by culling, the remaining 5 does would produce around 8 fawns in total, resulting again in 13 deer at the end of the year. This is called the Compensatory Rebound Effect (CRE). The hunters know this, but the public does not, thus allowing the hunters to have their self-perpetuating way." Anthony Marr
What is reproductive rebound? "Reproductive rebound is a well documented population dynamic in deer and other mammals. Deer conceive multiple embryos but the number of fawns actually born is determined by a number of complex factors including nutrition and herd density. With competition for food reduced by a sudden drop in herd numbers, younger fawns will breed and females will give birth to twins and triplets instead of single fawns. In its 1990 report, "An Assessment of Deer Hunting in New Jersey," New Jersey Fish and Game offered a detailed example of this process. Its report shows that even during hunting seasons in which killing female deer was the objective (antlerless seasons), the remaining females had increased birthrates that not only replaced the ones killed, but increased the overall size of the herd. " PZP FAQ's
"One reason the policies failed, Choisy and Rohani said, is that they didn’t take into account an ecological principle known as compensation. When a portion of the animal population is reduced, those that survive are left with more resources such as food and shelter. As a result of the newly plentiful resources, the death rate decreases and the birth rate increases, compensating – and sometimes overcompensating – for the loss. Hunting Can Increase The Severity Of Wildlife Disease Epidemics"
DNR knows about CRE and use it to their advantagefor more fawn birth thus larger deer herd size and you can see their main interest in the buck fawns.
“By keeping the deer population below the carrying capacity of the available habitat, more forage (nutrition) is available per deer. Thus, does are healthier, reproductive success is higher and more does are able to carry two fawns. Ironically, this can result in a greater deer harvest each year. Depending on the relationship of the population and the carrying capacity, an „optimum sustained yield‟ can be achieved where a relatively high reproductive rate allows an abundant harvest each fall. With high-quality habitat and increased nutrition, the percentage of
doe fawns that breed their first fall increases (sometimes up to 25 percent). Also, a higher percentage of yearling does produce two fawns instead of one. Because fawns are born at approximately a 1:1 sex ratio, more bucks may be born each year. Therefore, in some areas, you actually can increase the number of bucks born by shooting more does.” “Quality Deer Management: Guidelines for Implementation,” 6. Agricultural Extension Service, The University of Tennessee. http://www.utextension.utk.edu/publications/pbfiles/pb1643.pdf (last accessed November 2008)
"Some people disagree with shooting antlerless deer; they reasn that protecting them -- thus maintaining a maximum breeding base -- will assure large number of antlered bucks because terrific numbers of deer will be born each year and button bucks wouldn't be harvested. But bear in mind, a smaller herd in balance with its habitat can produce as many fawns as an oversized herd on poor range. Does have fewer young when habitat quality is lacking" PA Game Commission
"In West Virginia, deer collisions have been on the rise for the last two years. Erie notes that in 2007, claims increased 11 percent. Apparently, in Wirt, Pleasants, Calhoun and Pocahontas Counties, drivers are three times more likely to hit a deer than in other parts of West Virginia."
"Crashes with deer can occur any time across West Virginia, but appear to be more likely in October, November and December, in both the mating and hunting seasons, especially when the animals are being flushed out by hordes of hunters, Bailey said. “And deer season is just around the corner,” she added.
Hunters already know that the highest time for Deer Vehicle Accidents are in the fall (hunting season) so instead of accepting the fact their disgusting selves being in the woods killing deer is what causing the deer vehicle accidents they instead blame the rut season or the "dva's happen more at night" excuses. Here is the video to refute that argument and no doubt in my mind that over 90% of DVA's are a direct result of DNR manipulation of deer habitat to produce more deer and hunters in the forest.
It's easy to see how a bowshot (gun shot also) deer can cause deer to run to the road here
Deer Vehicle Accidents has more then DOUBLED in state with most hunters! click here
Where did I get my information about creating large deer herd and big rack deer? here is one of the several sites I have found.
Hunters like to hunt deer when deer are most active and here is what I found.
"The second reason is that they didn't get to live 3 1/2 to 5 1/2 years by being completely stupid. These mature bucks have patterned hunters throughout their lives. They know that most hunters hunt from daylight to about 9:00AM, and in the afternoon from around 3:00PM to dark. " Hunting and shooting info
"Dawn
The earliest hours of the morning are among the highest for deer movement. It's best to get to your blind or your station before dawn. Set up when it's still dark and you won't disturb the deer as they wake up in the morning."
"Dusk
# Dusk is the best time for deer hunting. First of all, hunters at dusk will have the converse advantage that dawn hunters had, as deer return to their beds. However, dusk is also a time of other increased activity. In the warmth of early autumn, depending on the climate, the deer prefer coming out to feed at dusk rather than through the heat of the day. In late autumn, when most hunters hunt, deer are liable to be more active at dusk because of the rut. Bucks will be chasing does, and both will be less cautious than usual, and more likely to wind up in the wide open in good position for a shot. Get out to your position two hours before sunset and wait for the increased activity. "
" Most hunters seem to prefer early and late. Deer are moving in the mornings back to their beds from feeding, and visa versa in the evening going to the fields to feed. "
"Best time to hunt deer is early morning and evening. Deer are mostly nocturnal animals; they prefer to feed at night. In the mornings, you will see them as they to into the woods to find a nice safe place to bed down for the day. In the evening, right before dusk, they start moving around, as they are hungry and want to go out again and feed."
Hunters like to say that hunting is not allowed at night which is when DVA's peaks during the fall season. The peak time according to Ontario Transportation is early morning (5am-7am) and after sunset (5pm-11pm) in NY D.E.C it says " with most of the collisions occurring between 6:30 and 7:30 AM and 4:30 and 6:30 PM" in another it says "Be especially alert driving between sundown and sunrise". Here is another ...* "Deer Vehicle Accidents are most likely to occur between 5 AM - 8 AM and 5 PM - 9 PM." And remember this... The report also confirms that most wild animal collisions occur during early morning (5am-7am) or after sunset (5pm-11pm).
**Deer hunting is permitted one half hour before sunrise and one half hour after sunset.
PS.Most importantly is that Hunting organization are deliberately creating this large deer herd and of course antlered deer for the purpose of recreational hunting. Here is another quote among many I have found that proves they are "producing" deer for sports hunting. From a website called North American Whitetails and title of their post is "Are your deer hungry" ?
"If you're not providing the local herd with enough of the right groceries for maximum antler and body size, as well ashigh fawn survival, you're not enjoying the full benefits of sound management."
"Let's assume that 75 percent of a whitetail's daily food consumption consists of prime agricultural crops, the other 25 percent of native browse. Such heavy utilization of food plots isn't theoretical; at North American Whitetail's Fort Perry Plantation in Georgia, agricultural crops make up 80 percent of the herd's annual diet.>>> And under management, the deer density increased to more than five times that of natural carrying capacity<<< - even as the health of the natural habitat steadily improved. In the West, whitetails in river-bottom habitat with irrigated alfalfa are almost fully dependent on that crop when it's available. >>>The same trend is true in the Midwest and Central Canada.) Here's the key to why whitetails do so well when provided with the right food plots:<<<
Gee, and all this time we thought it was about "reduction" of deer population.
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Another important note: Hunters are allowed to be in the forest tracking wounded deer after dark and tracking is most common in bowhunting but in shotgun hunting too. Here is a quote from tracking wounded deer site.
* "When trailing at night use a couple of the Chem Lights that you can get at WalMart for less than a buck. You don't use these as lights to see blood, but they are hung on limbs at the last blood found. That way nobody has to stand on the last blood and everyone can easily see where the last blood found is at"
"The worst thing you can do when tracking a deer at night is to head out immediately. Fear will increase adrenaline in the deer and cause it to run longer and faster, and your approaching footsteps will instill that fear. Wait 30-45 minutes before you attempt to find a gunshot or bow-shot deer, then begin your trek in the most logical direction. Just make sure you watch which way the deer ran as it flees the site."
"Let the deer layup and die" will show you not only are recreational hunters cruel and heartless but how they will wait for the animals to die as to not spook him to run further from fear. Overall there are a lot of waiting and tracking to do especially from bowhunting although this pertains to shotgun too.
If hunters are so "concerned" about DVA's then why do the DNR and hunters rejects deer birth control ? Why do they continue to lie and deceive the public about IC? click here knowing full well that DVA's continues to be a problem even with hunting!
State "Deer Management" says fawn should be at least 2 months old so they can probably take care of themselves, how "caring"!!!! With hunters so preoccupied with producing fawns, it's not surprising why they continue to lie and deceive the public about deer birth control .
The reason why mass killing creates more deer is the ecological principal known as compensatory rebound . After Deer hunting season there is a drastic drop in deer population,thus more food will be available for does. Healthy does means birth to twins and sometime triplets. The fawns will become nothing more then "crops" to the hunters and will "recruit" the fawns to become object for hunters self gratification of killing. Hunting season is huge money for the DNR (not to benefit you the non-hunting public but the hunters themselves. State Wildlife Agencies (Fish and Wildlife etc.) spend billions of dollars to create more land to use as killing field and more deer herd preferably the large antlered buck.
Hunting organization and hunters continued to reject deer birth control and we can see why, here are some quotes about doe killing as part of "deer management".
"The number of new deer added to the pre-hunt population is a function of the number of fawns born and their survival until until the fall. The number of fawns born is primarily determined by the number of does, but the survival of fawns, however, is mostly dependent upon the physical condition of does, although predation is certainly a factor is some situations. A large number of does that are nutritionally stressed will not raise as many fawns to be added to the fall population as a lesser number of healthy does."
They spend so much time "studying" does reproductive so does can give more birth and the fawns become "recruit" to be an object for sports killers.
"Thus, late fall up to early winter is very important for deer herd managers to impact and influence fawn production, so make sure the plant communities on your property is properly managed deer habitat. "
The above article came from Texas hunting and deer "management" website. Here is one from PA DNR and "deer management"
"Some people disagree with shooting antlerless deer; they reason that protecting them -- thus maintaining a maximum breeding base -- will assure large numbers of antlered bucks because terrific numbers of deer will be born each year and button bucks wouldn't be harvested. But bear in mind, a smaller herd in balance with its habitat can produce as many fawns as an oversized herd on poor range. Does have fewer young when habitat quality is lacking."
Indiana does it too as well as other states such as NJ and West Virginia and its pretty much the same for all the state that use hunting as a method of "deer management" and to "reduce" deer population.
Mother doe and their young needs each other as you can see from this young fawn we name Sir Knocknee and mother that comes to our back yard. The young fawn about 3 weeks old last spring/summer.
Fawn and mommy at 3 months old
This is the young fawn a week ago still with mother and Sir is now cleaning mommy.
Sir knocknee is about a year and a month today still with mommy.
State Wildlife Agencies spends billions of dollars manipulating deer habitat to produce more deer even killing deer natural predator
("biggest threat to fawn 'RECRUITMENT' ")
which is nature's eco-balance. The fawn are "protected" so they will replace the 100,000 of deer (over 6 million across America) killed season after season. Imagine if we just had wildlife watching and stopped sports hunting, it would benefit not only the animals life but us for no animal would have to die , there be no need to replenish the slaughtered deer year after year from sports hunting and spend so much money and time creating "fawn crops" "recruiting" fawns , burning deer habitat, planting food plots, and for that extra boost hunters do whats called " supplement feeding" to create better antler growth and larger deer herd. The large deer herd is what is what causing Deer Vehicle Accidents which is also highest in the Fall hunting season plus we like to see the same deer alive when wildlife watching year after year after year.
Don't be fooled by the word "harvest" which hunting public love to use instead of the word kill or slaughters to white wash their killing for sports. They want the public to believe that killing a deer is like plucking a potato out of the ground and that the animals feel no pain or suffering. May I remind the wildlife killing public that Deer are not crops, vegetables, potatoes etc unless we can call hunting accident victims a "harvest".
Early doe hunt from another "deer management" website and look the heartlessness of the hunting public.
"Chronic wasting disease seems more likely to occur in areas where deer or elk are crowded or where they congregate at man-made Artificial feeding or baiting of deer and elk may compound the problem" (Williams / Young 1980)
There is no end to hunters lies and hypocrisy. Hunters tell non-hunters not to feed Deer because of risk of spreading wildlife disease especially Chronic Wasting Diseases yet they themselves feed them "deer supplements" just like you see in the photos and what are purpose of this "deer supplements"? To make the antlers grow, for deer herd size and more fawn birth.
Before we begin , what is Chronic Wasting Disease?
"Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) is a transmissible neurological disease of of deer and elk that produces small lesions in brains of infected animals. "It is characterized by loss of body condition, behavioral abnormalities and death. CWD is classified as a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE), and is similar to mad cow disease in cattle"
What do many "deer manager" say about supplement feeding?
"Deer managers agree that supplemental feeding, whether it be protein pellets, whole cotton seed, or some other type of high-protein food, really helps local deer populations."
"Individual deer health is important for maintaining body mass, promoting maximum antler growth in bucks, and optimal milk production in does."
"Managing for proper nutrition in white-tailed deer is important for good body condition, good fawn production and recruitment, and maximum antler growth. Good nutrition can be accomplished by doing three things that involve proper habitat management, supplemental feeding, and the planting of food plots."
One website called "Buck management" Rationalize that its "ok" for them to supplement feed deer and risk CWD spread with this lame excuses.
"One thing to keep in mind: Deer are likely to concetrate somewhere - whether it be a water source, food source, bedding area, or travel corridor. Although providing supplemental food will concetrate deer, I suspect that if a disease or virus is present the pathogen will be passed on regardless of whether or not you provide supplemental feed."
P.129 "With supplemental feeding, it becomes very easy to maitain artificialy high deer densities and still obtain adequate results in terms of antler and body growth." Producing Quality Whitetails Revised Edition Al Brothers and Murphy E. Ray, Jr. Edited by Charly McTee
CWD was first spread by supplement feeding rendered animals for protein (antler and herd growth) . Comments about CWD from FromOrganic Consumer Association.
"As you can see by reading this article [below] in this afternoon's Capital Times of Madison, word is slowly leaking out about what has apparently been a massive decade-long feeding of "supplements" (including meat and bone meal as mineral and protein) to wild deer in the heart of the "kill zone," the area of the WI Chronic Wasting Disease outbreak.
Apparently no one in the CWD research community has ever investigated the possibility that CWD may be spreading via rendered feed (mineral, fat and protein supplements), as happened in Britain with mad cow disease. This needs to be investigated immediately as a possible third means of infection for CWD, along with suspected animal-to-animal transmission and environmental contamination.
As you can see from the excerpts of two books below on feeding wild deer, there has been a huge push over the past 10-15 years of supplemental feeding of both game farmed elk and deer and wild deer to grow bigger animals with huge-boned antlers.
Just about every hunting store sells deer feeders and supplement whether for baiting or for deer herd and antler growth just so little men (and women) can kill these beautiful animals for sports and trophy.
CWD is now in 14 states plus 2 Canadian Province Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York (only from CWD containment area), Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia (only from Hampshire County), Wisconsin and Wyoming; as well as the Canadian provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan.
Its amazing the extent that State DNR would go to create large deer herds in attempt to produce as many antlered deer as possible and growing fawns like they were crops. This is what hunters says on their "deer management" website on "caring for fawn" to ensure abundance of deer for recreational hunting.
"Additionally, keep an eye on your predator population and do what you can to control them, but especially in areas with less than ideal fawning habitat. "
"There is quite a bit of time between now and deer season, but the deer you should be thinking about is the one you will be harvesting (KILL) about 5 1/2 years from now. "
"Any practice that removes ground cover during the fawning season should be discouraged if you want to improve the fawn crop in your area."
"Research has shown that high quality deer habitat can produce good fawns crops even with dense predator populations."
"On the flip side, barren ground with a heavily used forest understory can spell “poor fawn crop.” If this problem is not addressed, expect deer numbers in the area to decline over time. Hey, if the fawns can’t survive and you shoot the rest, what’s left?"
"In our recent spotlight deer surveys, we noted an increase in fawn numbers and an increase in deer numbers,” he said. "
"Due to the antler restrictions and adequate forage available, hunter should see older bucks with larger antlers this season."
Hunters "complain" about deer vehicle accidents and overpopulation yet THEY want to create large deer herd for hunting opportunity!
Here is the food plots..so much money and time spend on "conserving" land to use as killing field and deer production.
"Good fawn production" "Maximum antler growth"
What anti-huntig league and organization been saying for years about how hunting is not about "reducing" deer population but to "produce" deer abunace to ensure plenty of big racked "trophy" deer because that is what the wildlife killers wants and will pay for and how the state can continue make revenue of the slaughter.
How does hunting creates surplus animals?
1.) Bucks are killed by hunters 2.) Does produce extra offspring (fawns) 3.) Fewer bucks means more nutritious forage for fawns and adult does. 4.) Habitat is manipulated (burning vegetation, timber-cutting, etc.) to provide more food. 6.) Abnormally high populations of deer result year after year.
Here is the fire they create (how much does this cost and how many wildlife are killed or displaced??)
Some of the fire they created that went out of control
In conclusion all that "wonderful" talk that hunters give you about wildlife "conservation" and how the money that come from the sale of hunting license and tag goes to "wildlife management" you see what its really about. So much money spent to create large herd of deer and at the same time overpopulation thus deer vehicle accident. Hunters/DNR continues to contradict themselves by saying they want to "reduce" deer population but in reality they are creating them. The evidence is right there and other heavily hunted states are doing the same thing. So the next question is.. Should state wildlife agencies help pay for DVA's victims?
